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Since the topic of fear & negativity has been so prevelent of late I thought I would ask a question...

Q.  Who created fear/Negativity?

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Since the topic of fear & negativity has been so prevelent of late I thought I would ask a question...
Q.  Who created fear/Negativity?

-lissa

What kind of answer are you looking for? I'm sure I could give you multiple possibilities, but couldn't prove any of them. It depends on your beliefs.

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Your answer lol... its a question... whats your answer to it?

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Ok well since we havent had much response to this question, i will give my 2 cents worth, agree or disagree, it matters not, just consider it.

If you suspend your beliefs for a moment and all agree that it is true that the first source or the infinate creator is the being or intelligence that created exsistance then it is true that he created positive and negative polarities, even if you believe in the philosophy of the Urantia papers, the Hidden hand work, the Lyricus work or the Ra channelings or even the Abraham channelings, that first source created 7 creator sons and created 7 archetypes & then they went and each created the 7 universes and then they created the individual dualities within each of their universes, at the core of this is first source/inifinate creator/god.

So He created it all... good and bad, positive and negative, light and dark, and there would be a reason for this wouldnt there?  Or do you think that God is not all seeing all knowing all omnipotent and just made a mistake when he created the opposite of light?

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Fear/Negativity is human nature. It has always been with us. It's embedded into us through evolution. 

They're emotions that will always be within humans.

I don't think it's possible to completely eradicate it, but I think it is possible to train ourselves to be less fearful and less negative. 
Who knows, maybe we'll evolve not having it one day?

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Thanks for the response Tyler,   What do you think negativities purpose is?

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Negativity serves no purpose
but as humans we can't help but to be negative sometimes

murphy's law is a good example of that. 

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hmm yes, thats what most of us believe, but what if negativity offered us an opportunity to make a choice in that moment? 
 
what if the purpose  first source/god/our creator created negativity to help us consciously choose a loving thought over a negative one, to be present enough in the moment to choose love over fear, to choose love over anger, to choose love over hate?  What if he wanted us to find the path home through love as a choice..
 
wouldnt that be the greatest gift we could give, to come home by choice?

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I completely disagree
the only one that can want to have a loving though over a negative one is ourselves.

Its up to the person and no one else whether or not they want to be of complete love, but the way our lives go day to day, negativity will always be there whether we like it or not. 

but thinking positive has been proven to work, laws of attraction is a good example.

I think the only way negativity/fear can be completely eradicated is if we evolve from it as a whole consciously. 

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Note: I don't feel very well today, so I will keep it short.

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I think negativity is a subjective emotion and/or subjective perception of a view of something.

It is a state of mind.

I believe negativity and positivity are there for out benefit and each one plays a helpful role in making apparent what is usually not apparent in our internal views about something.

Meaning, that we feel bad about something for a reason inside ourselves.

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Like climbing a very tall tree and worrying about falling from it. It is a negative subjective view of ours probably built upon the *idea* that we may not be a good enough climber. That we may not be up to the challenge. Does it make it true in practice?

Maybe, maybe not. We won't know until we try.

But that negativity plays a role in our excitement to climb a tree. It is not a definitive clue as to whether we think (unconsciously assessing everything around us and within our-self) we can make that climb.

It is a part of out sensibleness as intelligent creatures.

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That negative assessment can make the different between us breaking out necks if we fall. Or it can be a block towards our success of conquering something we desired but failed to achieve.

How accurate are our emotions of positive and negative sentiments?

Most people don't know. For some they are bad judges at whether their negative feelings are reasonable justified. And in other cases some people are regularly spot on.

What makes the difference?

>>> What we base our assessments on. <<<

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Is it a prior bad experience? Is it a subconscious knowing of our limits? Is it based on solid rationale?

Given all thing being equal in the physical realm...peoples negative and positive sentiments are like wild cards.

Some people are overly positive to their detriment. (Think of teenagers who think they can drive over 75 and still maintain control of a car. They are the ones who get wrapped around a pole.)

Some are overly negative to their detriment. (Think of people who assume they will fail before they ever try.)

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Finding out why you think negatively about something is just as important as finding out why you feel positive about something.

Negativity and Positivity are intimately related. Neither one is better than the other....for they are only assessments on any given situation.

Gor some people they base their sentiments on facts and solid evidence. In other people it may be far more subjective because they base it on something which is "less reliable".

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I don't see the value therefore in this so-called "law of attraction". Making *subjective* sentiments in your own mind....is just that....making subjective sentiments/beliefs.

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*Abusing* this internal sentiment that we have into an either positive or negative polarity is nothing short of deluding oneself.

If you delude yourself then what you come away with at the end is nothing short of luck.

Some fail and some succeed. It's not about what in your head as much as what is around you in the world.

There are very positive people in the world who lose their children. There are very negative individuals in the world who win fantastic opportunities.

The law of attraction is fiction as far as I am concerned. You all may disagree with me but the news proves it everyday.
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Abusing the sentimental concerns of your Positive and Negative outlooks.

Abuse or tampering of your natural ability to determine whether any given situation is properly assessed sets you up for a fall of some kind. Whether you think too negatively or too positively.

It is important to assess things honestly and figure out what you base your sentiments on.

It is VERY IMPORTANT to know why you feel genuinely bad or good about something. It makes a huge difference in the outcomes of events.

Your brain and your feelings help give you pointers as to what you think about any given situation. You were born with it. USE IT! (and use it properly!)

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Overriding a sentiment and forcing it into either positive or negative states of mind is a very bad idea.

Your sentiments are usually going to be based on the sum of your knowledge and biases.

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So what happens when someone from space comes down and tells you to think exclusively positive and not negatively?

It causes serious problems!

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Con artist always work on the sentiments of individuals. They first have to override common sense to get you to cooperate. Suspending any negative judgments that your suspicions bring on is nothing short of overriding your common sense.

You should never be overriding your sentiments on any situation at the beckoning of someone else, unless you are basing your thoughts on a foundation that is fundamentally irrational.

Your thoughts are your own. From time to time you should be looking inside and figuring out why a specific sentiment exists in relation to any situation.

If you are apprehensive, then something inside you is giving you a nudge on the mental shoulder that something isn't right. You need to look at the nudge and ask yourself why you feel this way.

You should not discard the nudge as being automatically invalid....simply because someone tells you to put it out of mind. That is a con artist folks. That is opening the door to someone else to make decisions for you.

That is bad! (short of them being all-knowing like God.)

Figuring out why you feel or respond to something in a negative or positive fashion is important to knowing yourself. At least, well enough to be honest with yourself.

A first step.



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Interesting that what i said brought out these responses.. to clarify things.. I am not talking about the law of attraction.. I am talking about spiritual evolution and moving from this 3rd dimension into the 4th and how one would achieve that. 

The role of negativity is an important one in the spiritual evolution of human beings.  If we do not learn to conquer our negative reactions and emotions how can we 'ascend' to the 4th dimension which vibration is love?  Its like asking a 3rd grader to move up to the 4th grade without having actually done any of the 3rd grade work.. isnt it?

If the way to pass the 3rd grade or 3rd dimension into the 4th is to choose consciously a positive emotion or reaction to a negative event, then without negativity we could never learn to do this. 

Fore I think your right when you say we need to assess why we are feeling negative, that is part of the process I think, when we are conscious of our emotions and thoughts then we are able to analyze them and rid ourselves of the automatic negative reactions that have their history in emotional disturbances.  Then there is the level of thoughts and emotions that are just on a day to day basis like watching the news or driving in traffic.  If at each moment we chose to be positive about the issues around the world and see them only as a catalyst to help us make that conscious choice then their 'negativity' ceases to exist.

<the only one that can want to have a loving though over a negative one is ourselves.
Its up to the person and no one else whether or not they want to be of complete love, but the way our lives go day to day, negativity will always be there whether we like it or not.   Tyler >

This was exactly my point Tyler, we are the only ones who choose a loving thought over a negative one, thats the key, thats the reason negativity exsists, it is up to us individually to choose which reaction we will have and yes negativity will always be around, but the more we choose the positive path over the negative one, the less we are effected by the negative.

I guess the question is actually about whether you are on a spiritual journey or not. If you are then this choice between meeting a negative with a positive is the key I believe to this being the last time we have cycle through this 3rd densitiy reality. If your not a believer in your souls journey to grow and evolve and remember itself then this disscussion is probably mute for you and wont have any impact because without the spiritual reason, negativity seems like a horrible thing, but with it, it is a beautiful gift and "get out of jail free" card to those of us on the journey home.

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Ok so maybe, to better understand the role of negativity we should ask the question like this:
 
 
What purpose does it serve to choose a positive or loving thought when a negative or hurtful thought arises?
 
or:
 
What purpose does it serve to choose a positive or loving action when a negative or hurtful action occurs?

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In light of some of the great comments from members about negativity recently, I really feel this question is fast becoming an important one we should all be openly exploring.

Can you imagine how the past disagreements would of gone had each time a negative post was met with a positive one?  Can you imagine how much growth would occur if each time we see negative or insulting posts we flood the forum with positive ones, not ignoring the negativity but transforming it genuinely?

This is an opportunity for growth right here at our finger tips and I think we should grab it with great joy.

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