April 23rd unexpected channeling
(As I tuned in , the pastel pink was present and very soothing. A smile of calm washed over my face)
Good morning … if you are there! As I was going to bed last night I felt you wanted to say something but I didn’t have the energy to channel. This morning I feel the same … is there something you need to say?
We thank you for adhering to our call.
Suddenly I could sleep!
You have learnt much whilst working with us and know that this is simply our energy as it visits you. It will ‘simmer down’ as we begin to unfold our words to you.
Which are?
Beware of false prophets.
Whah! That’s a bit full on for you guys. I shall stop interfering and allow you to continue.
Many thanks. Your internet machines are exploiting much from that which is not Truth. It is confusing many … and many are becoming full of fear because of all that is so called ‘foretold’. To clear matters up from our point of view and our perspective on things we would care to mention a few things that appear to have been distorted by others who believe they are following Truth and yet are possibly doing much damage.
When we say to you we come in Truth … in Truth is how we come for we know of nothing else. This you are aware of Blossom. What we choose to divulge to those who read your communications with us is for a very specific purpose. It is our agenda to allow Love to take hold within each one so that fear cannot. However … we step in, in this manner, because it seems that although many KNOW they themselves are of LOVE they are also allowing the fear of different channellings that they indulge in to supercede that which is of Love. If one continues to allow this to happen, if one continue to feed that energy of fear then it shall grow stronger and stronger. This is not within our required plans for planet earth. Do people not see that every thought that goes out in/through fear is one little iota more to fuel that negative energy? It is imperative IN THESE TIMES to remember who you are. You cannot do this with your minds, but you CAN do it with you hearts. They tell you who you are when you live in LOVE and let go of fear. It is through recalling your ‘self’ that your strength will come and we say to you … NOTHING will be able to make you afraid when you stand in this TRUTH of yourself … FOR IT IS FEARLESS. We talk with you this day dear Lady to simply stress this point.
And I have to say I do feel and impressing urgency about this message though, as if you needed to say it ‘TODAY’ as opposed to later in the week. Is there reason for this?
Yes. And this reason is becoming more and more apparent to us … as it will do to yourselves. Be vigilant. Be on guard of your mind thoughts as you are learning to let go of them. It has such affect when you release this feeling of uneasiness and exchange it with a feeling of easiness. Allow everything you think, say and do, to be thought said and done with ease dear friends. Do you not see that as the time draws closer to the massive events and changes that are surely to arrive then there will be the lower vibration clinging on in desperation not to lose itself and it will try every trick in the book to create a fear within as many as it can grasp.
DO NOT TAKE NOTICE OF IT. IF IT IS IGNORED IT CANNOT SURVIVE.
We have concern that so many of you are falling into the trap of apathy. The current times on your planet are spreading much fear into the hearts and souls of many of you.
THIS IS THE TIME WHEN YOU MUST BE STRONG. THIS IS THE TIME WHEN YOU MUST KNOW THAT THIS IS JUST THE SHIFTING OF CO-ORDINATES (?) SO THAT CHANGES CAN BE IMPLIED AND BROUGHT FORTH.
Excuse me butting in, but did I pick up on the right word there? ‘Co- ordinates’
We believe we have it right all though it might be misinterpreted. Co-ordinates/ coordination.
Co- ordination …making different people or things work together for a goal …. That would make sense. Co ordinates? Not sure how that fits in with what you are saying.
And yet we say ‘both’ our correct.
Then I shall leave it be. You say ‘false prophets’, I can only assume that you are asking us as individualsl to be discerning regarding the matter which we choose to read and believe.You say believing is different from knowing. I understand that because my knowing just knows. I often question my beliefs. Many would ask how one would know what/who to believe. There are so many possible different scenarios leading up to 2012. Many get confused and afraid.
Do you Blossom?
To be honest … I just let it go! When 2012 comes I will know. We don’t even know what may happen to us this afternoon … I try to live each moment at a time. From what White cloud and your good selves have taught me , I just try to do the best I can … living down here … which I have chosen to do right now … so best to try and make the most of it. I am aware that we have chosen to be here at this time and White Cloud said we should appreciate it, as there were many that were not so privileged. So I can hardly think that millions of us chose to come down here in order to assist the human race into ‘falling into the darkness’. Simply not my scene thanks. Therefore I can only assume we came here with great excitement to assist in bringing about this enormous transition. A change for the greater good. That is why we all get so excited is it not?
You must ACCEPT that you are a force of great might on your earth plane. If you do not accept this the plans in place would not prevail. By BEING this force it allows the progress of the programme to hasten. If you choose to live in fear it deters efforts of greatness.
Our haste and urgency is to assist you in understanding that the time is NOW. And because the time is NOW there will be opposition at work in its fullest strength. Its point will be to bring destruction. Your point is to not let this take place.
You feel it is so difficult. We accept that we are not resonating in the same frequency as you ‘earthlings’, and that it is more difficult to keep smiling through in these times. Yet we say to you … Do not make it difficult for yourselves. How else can we offer you this same advice?
Come from LOVE … Only LOVE at all times. IT IS SIMPLE. We do not wish to underestimate the trials that some of you must undergo. This is not what we are saying. However what we ‘are’ saying is the sooner you ‘get it’ … the sooner you KNOW that LOVE conquers all … the sooner you will realise that this statement is True. For indeed, when your heart is only in LOVE, the strength and brightness this creates within your everyday living makes all the difference IN the world. So then dear friends, imagine if EVERYONE ‘gets it’, if EVERYONE came from that place of LOVE … what a difference it would make TO your world.
This is why we continually speak the way we do. We ask you to focus on a land of milk and honey. Not one of control, death and destruction.
BE WHO YOU ARE. Break through the cages you have been confined within. We come to serve you … yet we cannot serve in our fullest regard to those of you on earth who are willing to accept our assistance until you have ‘saved yourselves’.
From what?
From yourselves. This is not as easy to explain as we would desire it to be. We cannot encapsulate it in a nutshell.
I am at risk here of trying to flog your book … but I’ve taken risks before!!!! … a lot of what you said to me in The Bridge, when I first connected with you … I feel explains about this ‘breaking free’. You have spoken about it in many ways. It’s as if we have allowed ourselves over many lifetimes to be prisoners to ourselves. You have explained that WE are the ones that have allowed this to happen. Therefore WE are the ones that must change this. We are the ones that must free ourselves.
Indeed. And what you must KNOW is THAT is what you came down here to do. 2012 that so many of you, with all respect, have become obsessed with is all about that … FREEDOM! And yet until you allow yourselves to be of this, you cannot possibly KNOW just how deep inside those prison walls you have become.
And the way out is …. through LOVE.
Many of you do not appreciate how simple this is. You complicate matters to the enth degree and then complain and moan that things are not going your way and what a terrible world you live in etc. Then CHANGE IT! YOU DO IT! FOR YOURSELVES … by coming from LOVE from your heart within each and every moment … within each and every circumstance. When you live this way, you would not be able to moan and complain, because LOVE does not know of this. Negativity in all its forms cannot and will not survive when everyone comes only from Love ... for it has no place to be.
The energy transformed into a calming … such … got to say it … LOVE!
Dear friends, give yourselves up to this knowing and understanding. Surrender your beings to LOVE. Then and only then shall you understand what is taking place for you within and without.
In ways of tenderness spread these feelings of LOVE around your globe. Let this FEELING of LOVE enter down into the depths of your Mother Earth and out into the skies of your protection. Offer your services to those who are asleep and have lost their way. Many who appear lost are desperately seeking within themselves to find the path way home. Those who know the way … Show them ... Lead them. .. Guide them safely through. Each and every one of you is a part of each and every one of you. So help yourself.
For now , we wish to say, because we know there was a question that you were possibly going to ask (due to other’s curiosity) regarding exactly WHO we are and our connections with other galactic forces …
We feel it appropriate to simply BE of LOVE and offer our services to you in this way at this time. This is our choice and we ask you to respect it. The TRUTH of ALL shall be known at a time when it is necessary and desirable for the greater good. So we implore each heart that chooses to connect with us to simplify …
You want to say ‘the game’ don’t you?
Yes, those words you heard were correct, to simplify the game. Lighten up. Be of cheered minds and soul. You came here to be part of a beautiful unfolding plan that has never before graced your skies (?) .
We will leave you with this conundrum …
We are who we say we are, and yet, what you think we are … we are not.
Oh Cheers for that! Glad we got that crystal clear!!!
Thank you for today my friends. I feel wide awake now you’ve got all that out of your system!
You know… it really doesn’t matter who you are does it? I don’t know what you look like, where you are from, where you are going, how many you are, if you eat, if you laugh, if you play … but one thing I DO KNOW … is you are kind enough to share with me/us wisdom that seems to make so much sense. Why is it that right now I am sobbing? Not because I am sad … but because you touch my heart … because I am filled with an overwhelming feeling inside of me , and the only way I can release it , is these tears. And yet, they simply are tears of LOVE. That’s the only way I know how to put it. You sometimes fill me with such a deep feeling of LOVE and I leave you now, or you leave me, not being able to make sense of anything … for there is no need. I KNOW at this moment that LOVE simply IS and that KNOWING is just there … making me cry!
Golden Rays up to you from little me down here.
My only thought about this is, why they chose to "lay down the law" about listening to other messages when they could of told us that the fear is within ourselves when we read things. I dont know about anyone else but I was uncomfortable with their position on this, my personal opinion is that an enlightened teacher would say why do you feel fear when you read things.. read them and evaluate the fear and rid yourselves of it.. sounds alot like the religious orders that forbid their members to read material being printed from outside their controlled sources so they dont start asking too many questions.. this is not good.. I am very uncomfortable tonight reading this.
Lissa, good afternoon,
perhaps it is just about the way it is interpreted and put in words. A channeler, and please let me know if i am wrong, is normaly a Vessel- at least a part of him is becoming a vessel- were words, senstions, smells, images come to him and he must translate them. I don't know how it works for Blossom but this is my feeling. what do you think?
ZetaTalk must be one of the channelings they refer to...?
There are so many "Talk" , it's hard to say.!
A lovely message that seems to hold water as well as a paper towel!
I hope bloss reads this and gives the FOL "Our real truth"
Shall we begin with a few highlights?
"Beware of false prophets" Personally I am not aware of any channellers putting out messages full of fear. But it certainly seems the FOL are unable to do anything about it and or prove their own exsistance. Positive thoughts will not put food on someones table or help them pay their bills. Unfortunately the fear is real for many people who are no longer employed. Over here in the US people have begun killing themselfs and their whole family over lost jobs and income. Crime is also on the increase and will only get worse as some have less then they need to survive. And you say stay positive?
Fear only adds to negative energy and "This is not within our required plans for planet earth". Whoa! And just what plans might they be?
"It is imperative IN THESE TIMES to remember who you are". Good luck with that everybody I have trouble remembering what I had for breakfast.
"Do you not see that as the time draws closer to the massive events and changes that are surely to arrive". Massive events? What the hell are you talking about? That statement is good for causing fear in many people. Or do you mean like your spaceship in our sky as you predicted last year?
"We have concern that so many of you are falling into the trap of apathy". Sorry but it is way too late for you to be concerned about that. What can I say but welcome to hell. You (fol) better get a job so you can pay your taxes.
"Our haste and urgency is to assist you in understanding that the time is NOW". Sorry but we have heard that word used before as was the word soon! Yeah, ok, right, sure, any day now
"We come to serve you" I think you mean babble
what a terrible world you live in etc. "Then CHANGE IT! YOU DO IT"! Yeahhhhhhhhh Right! Sheeple have been trying it for 2000 years and what did they get? Their right wing man in office for two terms. Sorry but our reality is appearently much different then yours.
@ Lissa
They probably noticed someone else was doing something they don't like. They probably had an "emergency" meeting about being broadsided by someone else outside of their control.
Simply put they are doing "Damage Control". Keeping their crop of people intact and listening to their message.
You'll see they make allusions to these people whom THEY FEAR. So once they decided what was the right course of actions they have a limited window of opportunity (read: time) to pass along the message and have Blossom propagate it unto the rest of the people who listen to her.
Before they start losing individuals to another idea or doctrine.
They are operating in a sort of panic mode and that is evident in their word usage and how they express themselves and the urgency with which they try to communicate.
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Whatever broadsided them made them fearful enough to jump on the issue and issue new mandates. You'll notice that the freedom of thought is suspended in how they worded it. You must believe only them and "The TRUTH" not "A Truth".
They are "protecting" their listening population from whatever they are reeling from. Trying to "immunize" them from doctrine which is not their own.
They have put it definitively that they are the only harbingers of truth in the way they put it. No longer agnostic of many truths. That got flushed in the toilet.
Instead they are showing their true colors like I said, their Truth. Not "A" Truth.
They are as much from the federation of light as I am. LOL
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The real question is whether or not Blossom knows what they are reeling from. From the looks of it, she probably is not aware of it.
By the way, if you all are wondering why the tone of the dialog is more "rough" than normal.
It is because when a psychic alien (like a Grey for example) uses more psychic force that necessary. Probably out of urgency and panic in the case of the FOL. The individual is more vulnerable to stimulation and spontaneous thought formation.
Meaning the telepathy is much stronger and robust.
Sometimes the mind of an individual (I should know) will "skip" under excessive control. Meaning words that are being directed to appear in the consciousness of the person receiving the communication (in this case Blossom Goodchild) is going to be more intense.
So rather than Blososm picking up the mild thoughts and turning them into her own speech using her own linguistic ability in her mind. The mind is forced to form words forcibly. Meaning that the speech pattern changes significantly and appears more like lousy "Grey English".
When they screwed up above, they simply rolled with it rather than make it appear that they made a mistake in their expressions.
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Thier new update simply tells you:
A) Stop thinking, start feeling.
They control the "feeling" easily ;). Look at the beginning and how they induced "peace" in Blossom. Need any more proof?
B) Don't accept any message that isn't ours. ("Our Truth")
Remember they said that they were part of a Federation of many truths? Does it really sound like they are given the latest channeling session? (Nope)
C( Stop thinking and "free yourselves" from your own *critical thinking skills*.
I was glad to see this since on thursday i was so tired i could barely stand (lol). Then again all i could wee when reading this, was the word truth.... i dunno, it actually spoke wrong with me, especially after the oct 14th meltdown. Why not give us more information. And the statement about who they are, which they dodged rather nicely. Why not give us some concrete evidence... wouldn't that raise the vibration of truth??? To an unbeleivable level???
Cherry
Dear friends, give yourselves up to this knowing and understanding. Surrender your beings to LOVE. Then and only then shall you understand what is taking place for you within and without.
-FOL
This is called DOUBLESPEAK folks. Saying one thing but secretly meaning something else.
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For now , we wish to say, because we know there was a question that you were possibly going to ask (due to other’s curiosity) regarding exactly WHO we are and our connections with other galactic forces …
-FOL
An important question is asked. The answer?
We feel it appropriate to simply BE of LOVE and offer our services to you in this way at this time. This is our choice and we ask you to respect it. The TRUTH of ALL shall be known at a time when it is necessary and desirable for the greater good. So we implore each heart that chooses to connect with us to simplify …
-FOL
The answer? YOU don't need to know!
Go on, turn over your souls to strangers. That is your answer.
[Sarcasm] The FOL is so enlightening. [sarcasm]
Now you have an idea as to why they are in panic mode. Probably someone [like me] said something truthful and the people they hope to "cull" are listening to it. So they switch into panic mode as a result.
Step one: Label it in a bad way. Call it a message of..."hate or fear".
Step two: Make sure they don't get broadsided again. Campaign until it is ignored by your listeners.
Step three: Make sure you make *loyalty* to themselves a priority. If you don't listen to them, then you are "bad" and/or come from a place of "fear".
[Bad Fore...baaaad Fore!] 
I was glad to see this since on thursday i was so tired i could barely stand (lol). Then again all i could wee when reading this, was the word truth.... i dunno, it actually spoke wrong with me, especially after the oct 14th meltdown. Why not give us more information. And the statement about who they are, which they dodged rather nicely. Why not give us some concrete evidence... wouldn't that raise the vibration of truth??? To an unbeleivable level???
Cherry
-cherryduck
Hey I am glad you want real answers!
But does this now make us "evil fear mongers" for asking honest questions? [No]
We are who we say we are, and yet, what you think we are … we are not.
-FOL
So says the FOL.
By the way, there is a hidden references to a future disasters. But they aren't saying that boldly and truthfully.
See if you can spot it in their text.
On the mystery message that got the FOL up into a panic mode:
DO NOT TAKE NOTICE OF IT. IF IT IS IGNORED IT CANNOT SURVIVE.
-FOL
maybe the false prophets - webbot
if you guys haven't yet seen the new Web Bot Predictions (found on ATS)
they are pretty...rough.
not pretty at all..
heres the link
I have spent a long time trying to go over other channelings that i personally find to resonnate a part of the greater truth to me, and what i find is that each one of, lets say, 'my favorite' channels, address fear in nearly the same way, that it is a problem within ourselves, that if we deal with why we fear and if we are connected to ourselves then it wont matter what we read we will not see fear in it. They also similarly say that the human being was never built to be indestructible, that physical harm is real to us but if we are listening to our inner wisdom we can avoid harm, and that we are designed with a fear switch for a purpose, the difference is, is that when we talk about this exact same switch in animals we call it natural instinct, but in humans we have fed the original instinct with our dark imaginations and created a whole new level of unhealthy fear within our race.
This is not the fear that does us any good, our natural born warning system is there for a reason, why on earth do you think we were created with it in the first place.. if we werent meant to have it or use it we wouldnt have access to it, if you believe we were created in our creators image then our natural instinct for both positive and negative situations was put there for a reason. You can not have light without darkness, you can not have good without bad. If the FOL truly wanted us to rid ourselves of fear they would be teaching us how to examine it and how to overcome it and how to look deeper into ourselves and find out why we react when we read certain things. they would also know that no one elses message can make you feel fear, that is something you do on your own, so how can we possibly ascend if we havent got this basic lesson learnt?
If I am afraid of the dark, lets say, then ignoring the dark and sleeping with the light on the rest of my life does nothing to help me over come it and control it does it? All it does is help me to avoid the dark and not deal with it. So how can I ascend to a higher vibration if all I have done is ignore the fears within myself and never dealt with them ? This doesnt sound like a higher spiritual way to evolve to me, does anyone else think the same, or do other people out there think that runing from our fears and ignoring them is the way to achieve higher spiritual evolution? I ask this as a genuine question.
Thanks for the web bot link tyler, this shows my point exactly about fear being only within the individual and not something someone else can put on you. I read it today and I havent had one single reaction of fear to any of it.. why? I am wise enough to see where I can do something to benefit, protect and keep my family safe, I am wise enough to see where I can not, and wise enough to know the difference. The stuff i can do nothing about is not worth me giving any of my energy to because I cant change it. What will be will be.. I am eternal, this body is just my souls "car" this time round.. I will get a new one next time.. :) So the web bot message to me is just another good presentation of a possibility of a future timeline.. does not mean its set in stone, but it is a possibility.. maybe because I understand that when someone is glimpsing the future, its only one possibility they are glimpsing.. there are 1000's of options all originating from any one given thought point in time.
So I dont know why they would be saying that the messages contain fear when if they were truly of a higher dimension than us they would know that that isnt possible, because if it was then I would be feeling fear too... and I am not.
I will say this and later I won't give any more opinions because I won't get into Ego feeding discussions.
I personally don't see anything wrong with the message of the FOL but just a warning that some people are trying to feed us with fear.
They very clearly show that some people have been dedicated to the task of making us believe that we are doomed because we are not spiritual beings but just physical beings and doom and gloom awaits us.
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Lets see: this is to my opinion what I think it is more important of all what they said ... " ... Do people not see that every thought that goes out in/through fear is one little iota more to fuel that negative energy? It is imperative IN THESE TIMES to remember who you are. You cannot do this with your minds, but you CAN do it with you hearts. They tell you who you are when you live in LOVE and let go of fear. It is through recalling your ‘self’ that your strength will come and we say to you … NOTHING will be able to make you afraid when you stand in this TRUTH of yourself … FOR IT IS FEARLESS. We talk with you this day dear Lady to simply stress this point. .... "
They are actually telling us not to fear because: .... "Do people not see that every thought that goes out in/through fear is one little iota more to fuel that negative energy?"
They are telling us to remember who we are ... beings of Love ... ONE ... we are all ONE and if we think or believe all those things that are being foretold like the webbot predictions .. that thought alone will bring BAD things.
It is simple guys... WE can manifest anything we think, want, express, wish for etc.
We are the creators of all the realities of what ever happens in our futures, in our day to day lives.
If we allow those glooms get us now later we will be overcome with all these atrocities and nothing good will ever evolve from that.
Remember the Universe doesn't accept the word NO.. So if you say there will not be an earthquake... the Cosmos understands instead.. There will be one... So if you think now that there is actually going to be one then it would even be worse.
So all the FOL is asking us to do is to be careful with what we think and what we say... "Allow everything you think, say and do, to be thought said and done with ease dear friends. Do you not see that as the time draws closer to the massive events and changes that are surely to arrive then there will be the lower vibration clinging on in desperation not to lose itself and it will try every trick in the book to create a fear within as many as it can grasp."
As you can see the lower vibrations will feed the adrk forces... We need to change and be of LOVE
They are not saying .. "hey love us"... they are saying LOVE YOURSELF AND YOUR OWN LOVE EACH OTHER... that is all they are saying.
They are saying what we already know that massive changes are coming but if WE have on our thoughts gloom and doom that is all we will get.
They are saying that LOVE defeats it all and if we fill ourselves with LOVE we will be able to defeat anything.
They are also saying that LOVE is not a matter of the brain but of the heart... that the brain can't explain it... and it is true... I loved once... and I still do and there is nothing on this earth that can help me explain what I felt for that man and why I rather be alone nowadays than having ANYONE that isn't him... cause it is far beyond comprehension... ALL we got to do is to start loving each other and try to get as high as we can with the feeling...
What is so wrong about that?
What is so wrong about telling us to love each other ??
What is so wrong about reminding us that we need to remember who we really are.
I am sure that there have been many events that were supposed to be cataclysmic and we changed the outcome just doing all these actions of meditations and prayers.
WE CAN DO IT ... WE CAN CHANGE IT ALL IF NOT TO STOP IT AT LEAST TO MAKE IT NOT AS BAD.
Think about it... Don't listen to what some people say that we are dreamers and have high hopes... WE can WE are made in the image and likeness of God... BUT IN SPIRIT... It is our spirit who can become that extension of God that we are... YOU KNOW IT ... IS IT PART OF YOUR TRUTH...
Jesus Christ said that there would come the time when WE would make greater things than the ones he did... HE SAID IT HIMSELF .... Because it is TRUE ... it is... Don't listen to those who want to make you believe that you are nothing but flesh and blood and fragile BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT... YOU ARE OF GOD... YOU ARE OF THE GREATEST ENERGY OF THE WORLD THAT IS GOD>> LOVE>>>
Don't let those people keep you in the dark and make you believe that there is no way out ... IT IS NOT TRUE... THE SKY IS THE LIMIT!!! lol
They are the ones who lost their soul long ago... WE HAVE A SPIRIT THAT CAME FROM GOD... REMEMBER....
They are the one who will NEVER see the light of God or experience the Love of God.. cause they are lost in their own game and nowhere to be found.
John 14 … Jesus said:
12I tell you the truth, anyone who has faith in me will do what I have been doing. He will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father. 13And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Son may bring glory to the Father. 14You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it. 15"If you love me, you will obey what I command. 16And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever— 17the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be[c] in you. 18I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. 19Before long, the world will not see me anymore, but you will see me. Because I live, you also will live. 20On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you.
Please think about it!! :))))
Love you all!
And Lissa... this is what you said when you gave your opinion about the last post of the FOL
(Quote Lissa)... sounds alot like the religious orders that forbid their members to read material being printed from outside their controlled sources so they dont start asking too many questions.. this is not good.. I am very uncomfortable tonight reading this... (End quote)
My previous post might have given you my opinion of what it really sounded for me.
Then in your second post you say this: So the web bot message to me is just another good presentation of a possibility of a future timeline.. does not mean its set in stone, but it is a possibility.. maybe because I understand that when someone is glimpsing the future, its only one possibility they are glimpsing.. there are 1000's of options all originating from any one given thought point in time.
So I dont know why they would be saying that the messages contain fear when if they were truly of a higher dimension than us they would know that that isnt possible, because if it was then I would be feeling fear too... and I am not.
You might be enlightened Lissa but not everybody is as enlightened as you. As well as some other people in this Forum who seem to be enlightened too, and who seem to find negativity and hidden agendas on the FOL words... Most of the time that is.
So their messages would be maybe reminders for some, and warnings for others, because maybe they can sense that there is a lot of negativity around us and they are worried that it will be turning into fear or they percieve it like fear.
Some people maybe because of what they are going through lately or have gone through all their lives find messages like this very important and valid, for maybe they are in fear.
I don't agree with you that they need to teach us how to deal with fear, because they aren't our shrinks... They came here to give us a message of love and not to psycoanalize us I think lol
We are the ones who need to work on that and not them in my honest opinion.
Fer maybe caused by many things and I can't expaect everyone to be so perfect that they feel no fear what so ever.. don't you think?
They will have fear and messages like this will set them right again, until they remember who they are and they become part of the Oneness.
We are all there to help them, and to guide them all we can... That is something else they said.
So remember that it is not only us who are posting here, but a bunch of people that come to these forums in search for the truth and the knowledge to help them advance in their spiritual search.
I see your point V, and if they had of said, this particular message that so and so is giving is designed to put fear into you, so we suggest that if you must read it, then do so with the knowledge that it is designed to elicite fear based reactions, we would suggest that you use your thinking mind and check it with your heart & if fear creeps in then examine what it is you are afraid of.
That would of been ok with me because they would be then be actually helping those that are falling into the fear trap. However they make a blanket statement, basically telling us not to read any message that instills fear. You missed my point about enlightened beings knowing this is just not true. Add to the fact that since millions are reading their messages and each person reacts differently to different messages, which ones are we supposed to ignore? All of them expcept theirs?
A set of words put into a certain patten can not instill fear in anyone. If this were true then the same set of words would put fear into all who read them, not just one person here and one person there. It is impossible for a set of words to put fear into anyone. The fear comes from the person reading the words and their level of understanding, evolvement, knowledge, wisdom etc. Those who truly wish to ascend/evolve, would recognise this and then each time they read something that instilled fear into them they would stop, evaluate it, realise it isnt the message but their own issues, learnings, hidden blocks etc that is brining up the fear, then they would begin the path to ridding themselves of that fear. This is basic spirituality 101. Its one of the basics of human phsycology (sp) too. Any student of true spiritual ascension who has had any kind of instruction from any half way decent teacher knows this basic premise. It is one of the foundation steps. that the FOL proffess to be of a higher spiritual vibration than us and dont know this, falls into the category of: 'things that make you go... hmmmmmmmmmmm'
<So remember that it is not only us who are posting here, but a bunch of people that come to these forums in search for the truth and the knowledge to help them advance in their spiritual search> V.
Your right, and if they arent being taught the basics of spiritual evolution and growth such as how to rid themselves of fear then they wont get very far or get very much help at all because they will always be held back because they will ignore things that scare them instead of facing them. I know you do not believe that hiding from fear is the way to conqure it, you are way too intelligent to think like that, and that is exactly what the FOL are asking us to do in their opening comments.. ignore that which is creating fear in those of you who it is. That is the same as sleeping with the light on every night for the rest of your life.
Remember that one will never become educated by only reading that with which they agree... they will only ever become Indoctrinated.
I would like to know what you see as a benefit to ignoring and hiding from the messages that make you fearful. I would be really interested in knowing what your thoughts are on how much spiritual growth you will gain by ignoring things that you fear and how that will help you grow and ascend/evolve? Genuinely I wish to know how your thinking is on this question.
And I assure you V, my ego has been in check for a long time now, my comments and thoughts are purely learning in nature, there is no ego there and if I am wrong I will happily admit it, its when a person can see that they are wrong and dont admit it that ego is involved. I have repeatedly throughout this forum changed my mind or my beliefs about things when presented with more relevant and more sensical information that I had not previously had access to. This is humility, the ability to know that I know nothing and I am happy when I am shown that so I can move forward and know more of the nothing that I know I dont know 
Good morning every one and each of you, as it is a beautiful morning here, in Greece and i totally agree with Lissa.
As for Web Bot predictions.... Let me talk to you about predictions. AS a professional Tarologist, beleive me i have been fighting with all mediums and tarostuff almost half of my life! Strange isn't it?
No. Tarologie is about helping people to turn the camera differently, showing that we can change, by our acts and way of thinking ,our future at least a part of it. and what is the point of seeing evenements in the future if we can't do anything about it??( beleive me i can see, and i learned in a very painfull way, and because i was so much in pain-My ego you see- i was helpless!!!!)
I do not "beleive" and i am against predictions. Predictions are dangerous. Why? 90 pour cent of them are about catastrophy, pain, fear..( a way to control you)
Change your present, your way of thinking, "turn the camera" from an other point of view, and you will change the possibilities. That's why it's "dangerous" to talk to people about future or use words like "Fear".
We human, have the great abilitie to focus and attract what we fear most...for a reason. we have to learn about our fears and to understand why they are sleeping in us, to progress. Let the future be. Stay focus in your present life and live each moment fully and in the best way you can. Do all the good you can in the better way you can and ...Que sera sera. We will deal with it in time. How many time haven't we say that if this or that happens, i will do this and that....? How many times we thought we were prepare for such or such event in our life and when it occured....we reacted totally differently?
And here is the little panic i thought i had fight! Damned! so many hours of psychotherapie...and nothing? You see! My english is very bad but i am sure you understand.
When my second born was taken from me and put in reanimation i was told by the doctors that nothing more could be done. It was up to him and to God! They found me ready to jump out of the window. I couldn't handle the more pain. I had enough for one life. But here i am. I had to handle with one more fear. or should i say Terror, nightmare, monster? They take different shape and form and when they are in front of us we must learn to deal with them.
Remember the stories they used to tell us when we were little? About dragons and monsters? Well all the heroes fight against a monster in a different way, but they all fight it, in Time. Of course they prepare themselves, or they have been prepared but things never exactly accure the way they wanted! Here is something i would like to share with you :
"BELEIVE NOTHING, NO MATTER WHERE YOU READ IT OR WHO HAS SAID IT, NOT EVEN IF I HAVE SAID IT, UNLESS IT AGREES WITH YOUR OWN REASON AND YOUR OWN COMMON SENSE" Buddha
There are also those who say they believe in Jesus yet deny the fullness of His Word.
Jesus also spoke of the coming destruction known as Armageddon. In fact, His life is built around the concept of his birth, resurrection and finally His "Second Coming". From the book of Genesis through the book of Daniel till the book of Revelations.
But most overlook and omit it from their sight.The truth they say they believe....they also deny....
Jesus Christ called them hypocrites.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypocrite
- Main Entry:
- hyp·o·crite
1
: a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion
2
: a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings
The incredible reality is that some say they believe in God. (whomever this unknown god may be in their mind.) And yet they turn in the span of the same sentence and say, "God was wrong", followed with "I know better than He".
So it stings my eyes to see such disingenuous behaviors...in my opinion.
Let me put it this way....
If I believed Lissa was a perfect being from the 10th dimension (in new age speak) and I said:
"Lissa is perfect for she knows all, is all powerful, and ever aware."
But then I said:
"But Lissa was surely wrong when she said that in 2012 the world would end or that she would recreate the earth.
I mean, Lissa is such a *wonderful 10th dimensional being*. Surely she would not do what she has said. Surely she would not allow this to happen. She was mistaken, and this is what you should believe instead about what Lissa has planned for us."
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In my above example, do I really believe that Lissa is all powerful, all knowing and all aware? Look at the words and the intent I imparted. Am I really faithful and true to the 10 dimensional goddess called Lissa?
Or am I being incredibly disingenuous and a hypocrite for pretending to believe in a 10th dimensional goddess such as she? If you look at my words in my example, the only thing I am saying is that I DON"T BELIEVE.
I don't believe the 10th dimensional Lissa is correct.
I don't believe the 10th dimensional Lissa knows better.
I believe I know better. That is reflected in my words. I would be setting *my wisdom* higher than Lissa. I would be a hypocrite and say that I am better than the 10th dimensional Lissa.....because I know Lissa better than Lissa knows herself.
(Also known as a mix of pride, arrogance and lacking any humbleness or faith in Lissa the goddess.)
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Lissa would be pretty peeved at me (no doubt) if she saw me from her 10th dimensional stool overlooking the 3rd dimension. She would see someone like me preaching belief in a Lissa in the 10th dimension but at the same time constantly contradicting her word.
If Lissa (the goddess of the theoretical 10th dimension) scooped me up and brought me for judgment in her 10th dimensional realm. Don't you think she would throw the cosmic book at me for going against my faith and her word?
I'd expect a smite at the very least. 
Awesome post!I see your point V, and if they had of said, this particular message that so and so is giving is designed to put fear into you, so we suggest that if you must read it, then do so with the knowledge that it is designed to elicite fear based reactions, we would suggest that you use your thinking mind and check it with your heart & if fear creeps in then examine what it is you are afraid of.
That would of been ok with me because they would be then be actually helping those that are falling into the fear trap. However they make a blanket statement, basically telling us not to read any message that instills fear. You missed my point about enlightened beings knowing this is just not true. Add to the fact that since millions are reading their messages and each person reacts differently to different messages, which ones are we supposed to ignore? All of them expcept theirs?
A set of words put into a certain patten can not instill fear in anyone. If this were true then the same set of words would put fear into all who read them, not just one person here and one person there. It is impossible for a set of words to put fear into anyone. The fear comes from the person reading the words and their level of understanding, evolvement, knowledge, wisdom etc. Those who truly wish to ascend/evolve, would recognise this and then each time they read something that instilled fear into them they would stop, evaluate it, realise it isnt the message but their own issues, learnings, hidden blocks etc that is brining up the fear, then they would begin the path to ridding themselves of that fear. This is basic spirituality 101. Its one of the basics of human phsycology (sp) too. Any student of true spiritual ascension who has had any kind of instruction from any half way decent teacher knows this basic premise. It is one of the foundation steps. that the FOL proffess to be of a higher spiritual vibration than us and dont know this, falls into the category of: 'things that make you go... hmmmmmmmmmmm'
<So remember that it is not only us who are posting here, but a bunch of people that come to these forums in search for the truth and the knowledge to help them advance in their spiritual search> V.
Your right, and if they arent being taught the basics of spiritual evolution and growth such as how to rid themselves of fear then they wont get very far or get very much help at all because they will always be held back because they will ignore things that scare them instead of facing them. I know you do not believe that hiding from fear is the way to conqure it, you are way too intelligent to think like that, and that is exactly what the FOL are asking us to do in their opening comments.. ignore that which is creating fear in those of you who it is. That is the same as sleeping with the light on every night for the rest of your life.
Remember that one will never become educated by only reading that with which they agree... they will only ever become Indoctrinated.
I would like to know what you see as a benefit to ignoring and hiding from the messages that make you fearful. I would be really interested in knowing what your thoughts are on how much spiritual growth you will gain by ignoring things that you fear and how that will help you grow and ascend/evolve? Genuinely I wish to know how your thinking is on this question.
And I assure you V, my ego has been in check for a long time now, my comments and thoughts are purely learning in nature, there is no ego there and if I am wrong I will happily admit it, its when a person can see that they are wrong and dont admit it that ego is involved. I have repeatedly throughout this forum changed my mind or my beliefs about things when presented with more relevant and more sensical information that I had not previously had access to. This is humility, the ability to know that I know nothing and I am happy when I am shown that so I can move forward and know more of the nothing that I know I dont know [image]
-lissa
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