The New Order of the Barbarians

I firmly believe the powers that be did not count on Obama being elected. I feel they expected McCain to be in the White House and we would be having a different scenario right now, to be sure. The NWO is dead.

This whole financial meltdown was planned and they expected people to riot so they could impose martial law but that isn't going to happen now.

I'm standing by my view that Obama is a lightworker and is in on the plan to turn the USA around and the entire planet.

Time will tell and it's falling pretty quickly.

Peace.

Indeed :))

I also believe that Brown is also a light worker.. He is trying to implement the same in the UK

We will see

Hey guys, watch this video, it tells a different story of Obama... It has a lot of very good facts included... Let me know what you guys think. It's a free documentary... I find it really interesting that I see Obama doing things he said he wouldn't...

http://www.watch-movies-links.net/genres/documentary/

Just click on 'The Obama Deception' then click on one that says 'Watch Full'... It's easy once you see it.

I hear ya, Munchy. I guess it all boils down to what you believe in your heart. I FEEL Obama has a plan and he is wearing two hats. He has some Illumanati around him to appear he is one of them but he is NOT.

When the time is right, all will be revealed. If you have noticed, he spends a lot of time away from the White House and sort of distances himself from the Cabinet members he has so far. I think this says a lot.

He was supposed to be here at this time and I have faith that we don't know the real story and things aren't always as they appear. It seems like he is with the dark but he is just fooling them.

Just be patient.

Peace.

I saw the video too.

Dunno what to say... one thing I know is that Obama is doing everything different than what the Elite wanted to do.

I also know that many of the things Alex Jones shoed there are old .. many from before 2008

Also Alex is a separatist.

And for Alex Jones everybody is a conspirator.

On the other hand I do see that he has hired all these people who belong to the big banks... and I surely don't like that thing he is doing to get people trained in war affaors.

Maybe a brain wash and a tagging system.

What I know is that if he is the wolf that came as a sheep and later betrade us all and starts WWIII then his time will be over by 2012, because everywhere I have read about the ETs they are coming whether we are preppared or not by 2012 ad they will massively land on earth.

I thought it was great that he hired so many people who didnt pay their taxes LOL... exactly what you guys need, coz you all know the taxing of your income is illegal.. I thought there may have been a little hidden agenda there when he was putting them in his staff .. one can only hope

See, that's the message I got too Lissa. It looks like something "fishy" to mainstream but it would have been pretty foolish to surround himself with these bad eggs. I think he KNEW their problems would be revealed and they would have to make amends. All the while he can just sit back and let it happen.

He is IN on all the "revealing." It's just a matter of time before all the bad guys are brought to justice.

Just last week, at least eight White House members of the Bush Administration were arrested. It's all coming together nicely if we can keep from crucifying Obama while it all unfolds.

Peace.

I was thinking today that the best way to fight your enemy is by having them the closest you can to you and to follow the flow... so things start coming into place by themselves.

I guess that a war isn't won if it is openly announced ... bad strategy :PPP

I hear you all and I admire the optimism but I still kind of feel that Obama was put there to be president to make us all just sit back and not say anything because he is the first black president.. I mean since bush was in office he has only done wrong and then Obama comes though with a message of change... and I feel that is the only thing that it is.. a message... he didn't 'change' anything at all. He hasn't given the American people Free health care... I mean Canada for God's sake has free health care and they aren't even as powerful as us.. France, UK, and a ton of other countrys have free health care..
 
I watched the Town Hall meeting in L.A. with Obama speaking and he said that everyone wants free health care BUT NOTHING is free... I mean if you are speaking of change and to better the American people then why not free health care. I'd pay more taxes for that for sure... But he doesn't want it because the drug companies don't want that.  I feel he is merely a puppet for something bigger.
 
Everyone loves the way he speaks and everything but it is like the gigalo speaking the right words so he can get the girl into bed and then he is done with her. And her being america... I really don't trust him and I VOTED for him... He's becoming too cocky for my taste and also in the L.A. town hall meeting he was dancing around questions that people was asking him. It was like we still had a regular ass president just dancing around questions... Don't get me wrong, I was looking to hear something great but all I heard was the shuffling of his feet to the questions... The man is going to bring us down...

Also... How in the hell can you make an economy come back by putting it more debt... I mean if I had a credit card and I had to pay $3,000 but I get another card to pay that debt.... doesn't that mean I'm still in debt?? It is ludicris to see and hear what he is doing... I really believe that he is going to bring down this country but maybe not by his terms but by the people that he surrounded himself by... I mean the people he picked are pros at minipulating people... Most of them are from the federal reserve, which is illegal... So please tell me HOW is this one guy going to change the country when the country is already bought and paid for by the corporate elite and sad to say the zionist... which is all true and documented... He is only a puppet...

Sorry to be so negative but I see right thru the whole plan of him being a saviour... People crying and think he's going to make their lives better... A politicain CANNOT make people lives better in a monatary system... it's the federal reserve and the economist that can... all he can do is make laws... the guy is a joke. I'm sorry guys... that's how I feel...I feel dupted.

No, I understand completely how you feel. If I weren't on another forum where the moderators are contactees, I wouldn't feel as strongly as I do. According to the galactics, Obama is playing along.

Already, eight members of Bush's team have been arrested. I hear a "rumor" that the US will be delcared insolvent on 3/31 and the Federal Reserve and the IRS will then be abolished. Now, I know this sounds too good to be true but you can check it out at fourwinds10.com. Use your discretion in what rings true with you.

Any any rate, Sheldon Nidle, who stays in direct contact with the galactics, says that Obama is a Sirian who knows what role he has to play in the changes between now and 2012; not just for the USA but for the planet.

No one will be more let down and disappointed than me if all this is BS. But for now, I believe Obama, the man, husband and father, is good; let's give him some time to prove himself.

On a side note, Michelle Obama is planting an organic vegetable garden on the side lawn of the White House. Her children and their classmates are helping and the vegetables are going to be used in the White House kitchen. They are into organic foods - they can't be all bad, can they?

I love you Munchy but for ALL our sakes, I hope you are wrong about Obama.

Peace.

I hear ya Munchi :(

wow Sun I went to that website you gave us there.

WOW if tht is true WOW!!!!

Do you think is for real?

We could call to the court and ask for that file... I mean with the case number.

It has to be Public... don't you think?

I agree Sunbeam... I really hope I'm wrong also... I'm going to check out the site you attached and read through... And you're right... we should give him some time to work things out on his end... I guess everything cannot be changed over night and he's only been president for like three months. I'm just worried... like we all are.

And you made me happy to hear that some of bush's team got arrested... I actually seen on the news the other day that when bush went to Canada he could've gotten arrested for war crimes so if he travels somewhere outside the U.S. then he has a high chance to be arrested... which would make me feel sooooo good...

And an organic garden at the white house... no, that isn't bad at all... I actually thought that was awesome when I seen it on the news... I was thinking it could've been a message to everyone to start a garden to save money on groceries... I definitely want to start a garden... Mmmm fresh tomatoes with a little salt. YUM!

Thanks Sunbeam... I love you too!!! You're awesome!

@ Vigusa - I sent an email to one of the moderators of that site and he said he believes the document to be real. However, on another forum they are saying it isn't true.

To me, if this document has been legally filed, then the process has started but I don't know if it would actually be effective in as little as two weeks. Stranger things have happened and nothing surprises me these days; good or bad.

People seem to be all so giddy over the stock market going up today - it amazes me how incredibly blind people can be. We're just borrowing from one place to pay the other and the private investors who are supposedly funding the latest attempt are just more of the super wealthy who helped get us in this mess. It is just crazy and the only way I can see it get better is for everything to completely fail and we just start over; wiping out all debt.

@ Munchy - I think Bush will not be making any foreign trips any time soon because he is aware of how many people are after him to be tried for war crimes. Lots of protests ongoing. I was very skeptical that anyone from his administration would be punished but people are beginning to demand justice and, although I try NOT to watch much tv, I do watch MSNBC news and they seem to report a lot of news regarding people wanting Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld to be tried and convicted. Pretty amazing.

By no means would I ever want to convince anyone that I am right because I'm just like everyone else, I want what is best for this planet and humanity. I want peace, harmony and heaven on earth. I want us to love and be loved uncondtionally and to give and share freely with one another.

In my heart, I truly believe we are headed in the right direction IN SPITE of all the crazy things going on around us.

You know the best part? Having such great friends as we do at this forum. I enjoy hearing everyone's viewpoints (even Fore's :)  ) and I always leave with a smile on my face.

Thanks so much to everyone!!!

Peace.

I agree... I love speaking to everyone here... and everyone always has something really cool and interesting to read or watch... It's awesome...
 
I'm also happy to have the new members that just joined... I feel we have a great way of communicating with eachother... Super Cool!!!

And yet you seem happy to mock us for still listening to the FOL, munchy. :PP

By no means would I ever want to convince anyone that I am right because I'm just like everyone else, I want what is best for this planet and humanity. I want peace, harmony and heaven on earth. I want us to love and be loved uncondtionally and to give and share freely with one another.
In my heart, I truly believe we are headed in the right direction IN SPITE of all the crazy things going on around us.
You know the best part? Having such great friends as we do at this forum. I enjoy hearing everyone's viewpoints (even Fore's :)  ) and I always leave with a smile on my face.
Thanks so much to everyone!!!
Peace.

-sunbeam

Sounds like your having your moment of zen, sunbeam

I think you'll want to see this video. In fact I think alot of other people will want to see it as it may help people have a deeper understanding of why the current economic crisis is an inevitable one.

Money as debt:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9050474362583451279

Yes, I have a Zen moment every now and then, Fore

I'll watch the vid this evening. Right now I'm going outside to look for ships! Some things never change.

Peace.

Aww corynder... I'm totally not mocking anyone... maybe you should re-read my posts.. I was only speaking personally about how I feel... And I really don't know why you are so bent out of shape about MY opinions since they are not like yours... Please feel free to believe that the FOL is coming soon... I actually would love to see it happen... but 'mocking'??? really?? I think if I was Lissa would have said something to me already. Why are you now so negative??

If anyone here thinks that I was mocking anyone, I want to be the first to apologize even though that is not what I posted...

corynder... did you even read what I wrote before?? Did you read that I said that even though I may not believe in them I met great poeple like you and everyone else here?? Was I typing in Klingon or something? =)

Let's put this to bed right now... If you felt like I was mocking you I apologize but remember that by chastizing me you are not letting me or anyone else feel free to speak their minds about certain subject because I or we wouldn't want to offend anyone. Even though an opinion shouldn't offend anyone who is confident in themselves and their perspective views.

I hope we can end this little bickering and find a common ground... how about a huge hug or a high five or a jumping chest bump?? That always works...

awwwwwwwwwww Munchy and Cory love ya both :))))  (you too Sun ;)))  rofl