What the hell is going on?

OMG :P

Yes, so many people have been talking about this. If the market crashes on Monday (as rumored), then they are preparing for riots. If people could just sit tight in their homes, they would probably be okay but In my opinion the government wants to antagonzie people so they CAN use their FEMA camps.
We must not let any of this make us fearful. I was afraid years ago but now I have the situation plainly planted in my mind and I refuse to let the negativity enter my state of being. I'm planning for my existence in The Golden Age and I have no room for this corrupt government. They are being dismantled as we speak and cannot harm us any more.
Have faith and KNOW this to be true.
Peace.

I hope your right sunbeam and that the corrupt government is being dismantled. It will take something really really big to change the way things have gotten with our government. Something like a total crash on wall street followed by its removal and that of the federal reserve.
Sadly the soldiers who come home and commit suicide are really good people. Clearly these people have a soul and conscience, unlike those in power. 
This world could become a wonderfull place if the evil and selfish ones are removed. 
 I hope that some of the channellings are true but so far all  have given us little to go on, but hope. 

The big focus has to be to stay calm and remember who we are. When the old crumbles away, it will bring about changes which may be scary. For those of us who know the grace and beauty of the Golden Age, we have nothing to fear.
We must remember our purpose is to help others who will feel lost. We know this life is all an illusion whose time has past.
Hang tight and don't be discouraged - the best is yet to come!!
PEACE

Brad posted this recently infidel sweetie I hope it helps :)).. it helped me :)
http://saviorsofearth.ning.com/video/saviors-of-earth-the-darkness

It's a nice sounding video but perhaps I'm just a skeptic at heart. I've been burned too many times and just not ready to say "ok everything is going to be fine because so and so says so".  I am the type that needs something a little more solid. 

I'm with you on that, Infidel. I listen and absorb then decide what feels "right" to me. I'm a member of the Saviors of Earth site but you have to be very careful when viewing the information provided there.
Having said that, I am hearing on several spiritual sites that we are moving into the light. The cosmic rays that are beaming in to help us evolve and mutate our DNA to where it should be, rings the most true to me. In this respect, it's an automatic event which the Divine has planned.
The good thing about the changes coming forward is that they are actually happening now I believe we will see some physical changes this year and next.
In the meantime, we will just have to support each other when we get discouraged and celebrate when we arrive together in the Golden Age. Deal???

It'll be okay. I haven't watched that video but I'm telling you, it'll be okay.

Cosmic rays?
OUCH! That would hurt your health if you were exposed to ever increasing levels of cosmic rays. What would be their source? A star or a quasar?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_rays
 
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Man, when will these messengers ever get their info straight and start asking real questions of these hidden sources who profess evolution and ascension. They might as well say "stand in front of a nuclear fire, it's good for your health."
 
Not to mention that the earth has several kinds of natural barriers set up against really lethal doses of ambient cosmic radiation.
 
Fact: Cosmic rays (cosmic radiation) would be so energetic in nature, that upon impact with your D.N.A.,  it would not only (if your lucky) cause radiation burns and smash through your DNA destroying it completely. But it wouldn't take more than minutes to days to kill you outright at varying doses.
 
It's a good thing we have van allen belts and other types of protection (ie the magnetosphere) from moderate sources such as our local sun. If we didn't we would eventually die out.
 
"Ascension" I guess means irradiated "death" in unearthly lingo? I guess someone should let the source know about the fundamentals we already have a handle on in physics..
 
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I am sorry for the cynical post, but it's hard not to be when obviously erroneous concepts are presented for the public apetite. I guess some out in the community are in contact with whatever that doesn't know the basics that we do on this earth. It makes you wonder deeply doesn't it?
 

I think that the cosmic rays that Sunbeam is referring to are not those "cosmic rays".
 
I think that Sunbeam meant to say the light or energy that is being beamed down to Earth from the source to help with the ascension... I would relate this energy more to maybe the dark energy the scientists can't explain what it is?
 
Also, as per the scientists the heliosphere as well as the magnetic field of Earth has considerably decreased in size. That is the reason why the North Pole has no ice anymore and Groenland is losing its ice too.
 
Also The Antartic is melting too.
 
As per many channels done by different people all this is related to the ascension process... or what others call the change from the 3rd dimentsion to the 4/5th dimension.
 
I guess that the channelers hidden sources are as hidden as yours, for you are the only one that have seen yours .. am I wrong?  Furtheremore, 99% of them basically give the same message except your sources... So I would have to ask, what makes your sources the only true or reliable source?
 
In any case everyone is entitled to his/her own believes and I sincerily think that mocking or ridiculizing other people's believes is rude and disrespectful.
 
One thing is to want to help others with well adquired and reliable knowledge and another is to ridiculize the ones for their limited knowledge.
 
Best wishes

I think that the cosmic rays that Sunbeam is referring to are not those "cosmic rays". I think that Sunbeam meant to say the light or energy that is being beamed down to Earth from the source to help with the ascension... I would relate this energy more to maybe the dark energy the scientists can't explain what it is?

-vigusa

You probably noticed I am not all that well aquinted with new age stuff. I have seen it from afar and didn't exactly understand nor agree with alot of it as recounted by friends who tried to show me the light (pun intended).
I notice alot of folks talk about the light of this and that. But I would love to know what is the light and whether everyone agrees on any given premise. I am a bit cynical and skeptical as to what I have seen since alot of it doesn't seem to make alot of sense.
I know no matter what I say about this or how I intend to say it, it will be taken with a bit of angst. I realize why of course. But I grew up in an unconventional attitude/environment where ideas are both tested and challenged. Both in the real world and against experience of others around the world.
It was fostered in me and it was duly returned at my contacts in the same token. I share deep skepticism on alot of things even though I keep it to myself of course. Even I like to have my thoughts challenged by others as it helps me grow and find new perspectives to view something old.
Of course, I understand if others are not used to that kind of environment. I don't think I would enjoy it either. But my comments were not directed at sunbeam. They were directed in general at the core concept behind alot of new age mythos and ethos of what ascension means. Just to be sure, I wasn't thinking of sunbeam. I just feel exasperated by some of the ideas promulgated in certain circles around the world.
Some of them seem to fall apart under close inspection or they don't make any sense even to alot of believers when questioned deeply about the concepts they ascribe to. (Trust me, I did this about 10 years ago and people were questioned alot of things they believed. I usually tend to bring out lots and LOTS of questions by asking people very pointed questions. It's nothing, just a (my contacts would say) a bad habit of mine.

Also, as per the scientists the heliosphere as well as the magnetic field of Earth has considerably decreased in size. That is the reason why the North Pole has no ice anymore and Groenland is losing its ice too. Also The Antartic is melting too.

-vigusa

I did hear about the magnetosphere being found to be closer to the earth surface than previously thought. I didn't know about the heliosphere you mentioned. Thanks for bringing that up Vigusa.
As for the melting I think in my wild ways as a christian that it might be something to do with God and several of his prophecies. I think it is pretty interesting and strange how some of these visitors/channelers tend to acknolwedge alot of these insights but from the other side of the road.
Maybe they share a belief in something greater?<shrug>

As per many channels done by different people all this is related to the ascension process... or what others call the change from the 3rd dimentsion to the 4/5th dimension.

-vigusa

Christians tend to believer the same it seems, but from a different angle than most new agers and with different terminology and viewpoint as to what it all means. 

I guess that the channelers hidden sources are as hidden as yours, for you are the only one that have seen yours .. am I wrong?[/qoute] Your a bit off in that assumption. I have seen enough stories being swapped around on OMF to know that there are ?plenty? of people who get to see ET's in person.
But their stories are varied and conflicting. Which says something about the universal visitor/channeled messages agenda.
As I see it, there are seemingly factions sharing distinctly different messages across many nations on this earth through many kinds of people. Alot of these messengers tend to congregate and polarize into their specific camp.
So if you get your FOL to meet eye to eye with the GFOL then you get alot of vibe in the air and people get exited about stuff as they feel "this" is the message. But like the 14th of October, there were those who polarized with the message of Blossom Goodchild and those that polarized against it. Those that stated they back the october 14th incident did so with full backing of various behind the scene sources. Both ET and Spiritual. (or clinical pathology)
The same was the case for those who outright said Blossoms contacts were being dishonest. (I was one of those remember?) The pro vs the con. The Pro left the scene in a hurry and some even edited any traces of their involvement or gave ambigiouis reasons for "success". The con camp got no recognition either.
The lesson?
Numbers of people who speak for an acclaimed ET or spiritual faction, don't necessarily make something true. It just means they are likely being contacted by somebody of the same faction that is pushing one kind of agenda behind the scenes. Be they alien or spiritual. There is consistency, but not necessarily truth.
 
I like coming in and pointing out what I consider obvious. I know I won't get an appreciation stickers but eventually people do listen to themselves and realize they need to start putting things together on their own and start using critical thinking skills. Not so much on the "feeling skills". That has it's use.
But God made the brain for one use and the heart for another. Neither one can replace the other. So use both and be weary of strangers bearing strange gifts....you know?

Furtheremore, 99% of them basically give the same message except your sources...

-vigusa

Vigusa, I love that you brought that up. I do find it strange. Why is there almost none saying what I am saying? Strange eh?
I dunno what to tell you. But as I showed you on OCT 14th....the number of individuals saying something or professing something, does not necessarily mean they are telling the truth. Wittingly or unwittingly.
Thats why I advocate critical inspection of anything. Most claim to do this, but when you ask them deep question they tend to appear not to really have done thier homework. And getting people to ask themselves critical questions is both fun and makes for good entertainment for both them and I.

So I would have to ask, what makes your sources the only true or reliable source?

-vigusa

I definetly can't say I am definitively right. What I can say, is that I do share my personal findings with others and have have been finding many many basic traits we all share. That is reliable.
When I can speak up and tell someone something they would only know if they were a real experiencer. It brings people some sense of relief and comfort (and some disturbing insight) to know that they are not alone.
When you can tell someone something about themselves that they have never shared before with anyone and that you know personally....not from some book, but from actual first hand experience. Then its gotta make them sit up and listen to what you have to share.
They may not necessarily agree or even come to the same conclusion as I did. But whatever they do have to share is for sure going to be of benefit to both them and I. They grow and so do I in the process. They have insights I may not have considered nor have experienced directly. They may have a missing clue that I never got.
It feels good to share.
Let me be honest Vigusa.
Recently, I was personally threatened for sharing my information about my experiences. Only one other name was mentioned. Guess who? :p
In either case, I will not be silent.

In any case everyone is entitled to his/her own believes and I sincerily think that mocking or ridiculizing other people's believes is rude and disrespectful.

-vigusa

It's a good thing I wasn't doing that to Sunbeam. I question the general belief not the person. I have nothing against Sunbeam as I am pretty sure she knows that too. I don't expect her to be anyone to have to answer any questions from me at all.
I'd like it if everyone asks themselves why they believe this or that. Nothing I say will replace what they think. Instead, the questions will lead to answers inside everyone, and that will lead to searching and questioning. That is my non-exclusive brand of thinking. When people start asking ET better start dodging LOL.
Most people who do think I am rediculing them, eventually figure out that I am not and thank me for making them ask themselves good questions. There are those rare few who do grow an irrational hatred though.
But I have made many friends for it. Few enemies at best. 

One thing is to want to help others with well adquired and reliable knowledge and another is to ridiculize the ones for their limited knowledge. Best wishes

-vigusa

Then you understand that I can't make that decision for anyone as to what is "well aquired or reliable knowledge". They have to do that for themselves. But some ET's and spiritual channels believe otherwise.
But when their "enlightened" fall into a pit or thrash around wildly wondering why they woke up in a ditch rather than in heaven. Well you know that something didn't go right. I don't profess any enlightenment as most new agers do.
Perhaps that is why 99% of channelers and/or ET messengers disagree with me.  

I think that your major problem dear Fore is that you try to rationalize everything, and maybe that is the reason why you haven't been able to find your way in the mystical world.
Many things in life have logical explanations, however others don't.
We all are in a learning curve and the fact that I have had many experiences that others have not had doesn't make me an expert in them because I can't still find explanations for many of them as for example why I react the way I do to certain things.
The way many perceive the way you express you points of view is as if your truth is the only truth and everybody else is an ignorant.
If I was alone in this thought about you, I would say, Vigusa you go to check your inner-self and see what is wrong with you... But the truth is that many people have sent me PMs expresing the same feeling.
Gloom and doom are the reasons why we are like we are... The reason why humanity doesn't achieve peace.  Unity is an old concept which comes way before our times and from ancestral times, and if we think that all that is ahead of us is bad, that there is only destruction in our future then we shouldn't even live ... don't you think?
A message of hope and love is never unwelcome.  How can love hurt us in any way?
As per what I have been able to grasp from all your messages is just gloom and doom... Don't trust.. Don't love... Love is for dumbs (pun intended) ... ETs are all bad entities... Our future sucks ... channelers are funnies... You are all ignorants letting others manipulate you... etc
And what strikes me the most is the fact that everytime that an important event is about to happen... a date.. a sighting... a message... a cosmic event etc... you all the sudden reappear with you messages of doom and gloom...
And I always wonder why you do that?... Why so much anger and dispair that you need to get others in your same low frequency....
You have the gift of rethorical eloquence, which allows you to deliver your messages very effectively.  I only wish you would use that gift to help them overcome the negative atmosphere that surrounds them instead of making it even darker.
In any case that is my opinion too.
Regarding this that you said... (quote)" Recently, I was personally threatened for sharing my information about my experiences. Only one other name was mentioned. Guess who? :p
In either case, I will not be silent. (end quote)
Yes, I saw that message too. If you are implying I had anything to do with that, then please file your complain with the administrators of this Forum and if they think that what you say is true I will gladly leave the Forum.

I don't have time for your games hun, and I won't let you disrupt the harmony of this Forum with the venom you spit, which only God knows why.
Finally, I must admit that you are as many "not so convincing channelers" very lucky and smart enough to use circumstances in your favor.
The truth is that many channelers are not fakes and many are telling the truth and this has been proven many times not just by hoping for events to fail or to ocurr, but with plain hard facts and verifiable evidence.
Love and light
Vigusa

Thanks, Vigusa and I won't bother with a lengthy reply to other comments, except to say that you were correct about the "cosmic rays" I was referencing. I don't think Source has plans to ZAP us in any way but to align us to be more advanced, as others are in the Universe.
Many of us on this forum saw the NASA pictures which showed some unexplained rays beaming down on the Antarctic. That information wasn't channelled :)
Only time will tell if our DNA is being changed to activate all 12 strands and if we are changing from carbon based to crystalline.
PEACE

I think that your major problem dear Fore is that you try to rationalize everything, and maybe that is the reason why you haven't been able to find your way in the mystical world.

-vigusa

True, I agree. I consider it a conscious limit and I try to overcome it. Like those eggheads from a far away land, if you deal with eggheads all day long you tend to become one yourself.
A defect of my personality. But one that alot of people outside the community of ufology do tend to appreciate.

Many things in life have logical explanations, however others don't.We all are in a learning curve and the fact that I have had many experiences that others have not had doesn't make me an expert in them because I can't still find explanations for many of them as for example why I react the way I do to certain things.

-vigusa

I understood more or less what you said until the very end of that sentence.
I claim to have many experiences with ET's. I have shown some personal talents derived from that at my time at OMF and ten years prior to that when my contacts were still on pretty good terms with me. I display alot of that acclaimed knowledge in my own little thread. Lots of people read it. Alot of people say alot of it is eye opening or "interesting". A handful ask me to have my head examined. (hehe)
I don't have all the answers and I say that plainly when people ask me about something I don't know about or don't have a point of reference in my experiences. All I can do is put it all out there and seek out others who can confirm or deny the info I learned either by direct contact experience or by reference by one of my main contacts in the knowledge she shared.
But in either case, my group treated me carefully making sure I did not have any direct evidence to share of their contacts with me. Earlier this year, I was asked to stop referencing them and their activities. They and I came to a mutual agreement. I keep silent about their comings and goings and they in turn give me controlled experiences that other contactees have had in return for my ommission of the exact times and dates of their activities.
They kept their end of the bargain and I did mine. They still are missing one part of their agreement but I understand they want to be unpredictable in their schedule. From that I got to experience a controlled OBE which I could examine and try to understand. It was very insightful and according to my agreement with them.
I got to see a physical UFO twice as per my agreement with them.
I got more to say but I can't because I am not supposed to until the agreement is completely fulfilled and some time has passed.
So I am vague.
Because of my experiences and the details I bring up, I enjoy a healthy readership. They put those pieces together if they know how to do so. It's part of the subliminal message that most experiencers have probably gotten burried in their subconcious anyway.
Who am I to be questioning the powers that be? [I am joking on that last line!]

The way many perceive the way you express you points of view is as if your truth is the only truth and everybody else is an ignorant.If I was alone in this thought about you, I would say, Vigusa you go to check your inner-self and see what is wrong with you... But the truth is that many people have sent me PMs expresing the same feeling.Gloom and doom are the reasons why we are like we are... The reason why humanity doesn't achieve peace.

-vigusa

Let them think what they will. They are free to do so. If they bother talking about what I have to say then mission accomplished I guess? <shrug>
All I do know is that I don't have to worry too much over it. The future is coming whether many are ready for it or not. I have been told one version. According to you (and you seem to be spot on) 99% of channelers and contactees are given a message that starkly contrasts with what I have been given.
So what the nordic woman gave seems to (unfortunately) be on track. What do the other channelers and experiencers say? When I am wrong I don't hide. I don't make things disappear. Most channelers/experiencers professing OCT 14 made excuses for the ET's and for themselves. Then they basically just made up their minds artibitrarily that things went "according to plans". <rolls eyes>

Unity is an old concept which comes way before our times and from ancestral times, and if we think that all that is ahead of us is bad, that there is only destruction in our future then we shouldn't even live ... don't you think?A message of hope and love is never unwelcome.  How can love hurt us in any way?As per what I have been able to grasp from all your messages is just gloom and doom... Don't trust.. Don't love... Love is for dumbs (pun intended) ... ETs are all bad entities... Our future sucks ... channelers are funnies... You are all ignorants letting others manipulate you... etc

-vigusa

Frankly it is because almost the majority act as complete clowns. I treat them as clowns.
They believe things that a 5 year old would question. They don't seem to know very much about the ET phenomena. They don't really seem to study. They just "believe" till they have blown up their credibility. What I am left asking after seeing the crisis of faith left behind is what were they based on?
Lies? Well, so be it. The record speaks for itself and of their ET contacts.
Not that mine are any better. But I keep them on the edge of a knife blade and am conscious to the reality of what alot of ET's tend to represent. Ironically I learned it all from them. (very ironic if you ask me) If an ET plays the gambit of gullibility, then I have no faith in them. Period.
I know alot of the signs. You just have to listen and look carefully at how they express themselves and the content of the message. Some are just too open to latch on and believe in anything.
I don't have much of a reason to fool around with retarded entities who wish to play games with innocent people and their beliefs or have fun at the expense of those who open themselves (many times beyond reason) to the wrong kinds of influences.
Lets face it, the FOL and GFOL have been around a long time. And I have been told by someone who knows alot about ufology in general that these invariably turn out to be cr**pshoots messengers. Their track record speaks for itself.
But if people want to continue to keep a candle burning on a systemic lie and half truths. Be my guest. But try not to be too hard on me if I bring forward contrasting opinions that can obviously be backed by failed FOL/GFOL exploitations of gullible folks.
If some people actually sat down and analyzed (just on the surface) what these guys profess and how incredibly contradictory they are. They would come to realize what a genuine alien with genuinely positive intention are vs a scam artist. (ET or otherwise) 
There are real reasons why the majority of the populace treats alot of contactees and channelers with incredible amounts of incredulity. And many ET's tend to have a deep hand in that. People like Blossom Goodchild have good intentions but they are easily misled. Not because she is not bright enough or well enough intentioned. But because they miss the red flags and they tend to suspend critical thought at the most important stages of interaction.
Over time I decided that wasn't the game I would allow to be played with my mind. My contact group had to deal with it and eventually come to terms with how stiff and rigid I had formed my rational mind. One of my main contact (for whatever reason) decided to give me good advice on how even rational thought can be turned against you if you aren't vigilant.
I guess I got lucky. But not by much.

And what strikes me the most is the fact that everytime that an important event is about to happen... a date.. a sighting... a message... a cosmic event etc... you all the sudden reappear with you messages of doom and gloom...And I always wonder why you do that?... Why so much anger and dispair that you need to get others in your same low frequency.... You have the gift of rethorical eloquence, which allows you to deliver your messages very effectively.  I only wish you would use that gift to help them overcome the negative atmosphere that surrounds them instead of making it even darker.In any case that is my opinion too.Regarding this that you said... (quote)"

-vigusa

You obviously see me in a different light. You think I am negative because I just repeat what I have been told. Which is coming true apparently.So sorry about that of course. Not like I would like things to come true. I am as much an observer as you are and I am playing a role in life as well.
It's not like I am somehow removed from the equation like most contactees love to believe they are. They are told pretty much the same things it seems. Yet they are promised that they will be fine becaue they are "super special". Blah. I don't believe that for a moment in my own case.
If the world goes down the tubes then it is humanity and I that suffer for it. There is nothing objective about bad times. It affects everyone.
Like anyone else, I would love to live with happy land and have many babies and see everyone smile and be super happy. Cause if I didn't then I woudl be one sick puppy. 
--I give what I was given.
--I explain what was explained to me.
Why? I want to find out how much if any of it is true. Just my bad luck that it seems to be coming true. <shrug>
Keep in mind Vigusa that what happens in our future is a result of our actions that we control and that which we don't control. This is neither positive nor negative. It just is. Its a part of the reality we live in.
Will telling people about roses and sunshine do anything but mislead them?  If 99% of contactees and channelers tell you that the future is roses and sunshine then good for them!
If it turns out to be anything than that I guess they won the monopoly on a great lie. Go figure.
Whether I say things which make people feel good or not will not really change the future. What critical people down here and up there (remember we don't live in a cosmic bubble) will decide what our future is going to become. 
"

Recently, I was personally threatened for sharing my information about my experiences. Only one other name was mentioned. Guess who? :pIn either case, I will not be silent. (end quote)Yes, I saw that message too. If you are implying I had anything to do with that, then please file your complain with the administrators of this Forum and if they think that what you say is true I will gladly leave the Forum.I don't have time for your games hun, and I won't let you disrupt the harmony of this Forum with the venom you spit, which only God knows why.Finally,

-vigusa

Funny, you seemed pretty happy the last few days for someone who was supposed to be threatened. You were like an angel on a cloud even though you were mentioned in the PM's as being someone who was also being threatened. Did you bring any attention to it? To anyone? Too bad whiterosea was only an account *a few hours old* and they just happen to threaten me and mentioned you out of the blue.
Yeah, I buy that wasn't a "sockpuppet" account. <rolls eyes> Just like I buy that you are not "Pam".
You know you have always wanted me to disappear and you'll seemingly do anything to get it done. I likewise don't care if you stay or go. I could care less. My world does not revolve around you as some kind of opponent that needs to be removed. So leave me the heck out of your ongoing MO to get rid of me. Let me be and let me express myself in my own little corner. You can take the other three corners for all I care.
I already brought the threat to Adminstrations attention. If I seem angry it is probably because of the threat. By the way, wrong name.
Pam, you and I, know we will never get along. So maybe we should go back to ignoring each other rather than antagonizing each other over and over and over. Like I said a month or so ago, you can build your relationships and whatever under your new name.
I don't care. I am not here to bother you. So leave me the heck alone.
The only reason you keep leaving anything behind is simply because you are a terrible liar and the truth always floats to the surface and you turn tail and walk away. Your not chased out by anyone but yourself. Your latest was a bit over the top, even for you.
 

I must admit that you are as many "not so convincing channelers" very lucky and smart enough to use circumstances in your favor.The truth is that many channelers are not fakes and many are telling the truth and this has been proven many times not just by hoping for events to fail or to ocurr, but with plain hard facts and verifiable evidence.Love and lightVigusa

-vigusa

Really? Which?
I don't necessarily believe that channelers are fakes. Some might be mental of course. I think that is safe to assume.
The majority (totally in my opinion) are probably being led by less than truthful sources at the other end of the line.
I believe Blossom Goodchild is a dead honest lady. But whoever it was on the other end of the line was lacking alot in honesty. That should reflect badly on only three things.
1)Whiteclouds ability to keep bad entities at bay. (shrug, come on, you gotta agree!)
2)Blossom's inability to determine a negative presence or a manipulative presence in her midsts. (even the bests of us fall prety...cannot blame her too hard on this I guess)
3) Whomever is calling itself the Federation of light on the other end of Blossoms channeling hotline is being way less than honest in various ways. They also don't seem too keen on giving her enough info about her experiences which may give rise to serious doubts about her being a willing participant.

Fore?... I think you did not read my post thoroughly and correctly.
I recommend to you to read it again.
And Fore?... Think what you must and do whatever you want... I did not bring the PM of that person to the Administration of the Forum because a lot of your personal information is in there.  Instead I destroyed it.
BTW someone asked me what was all that about when that person left the message in the forum and I replied what I told you... Your personal information is what it was in there.
So think what you must and do what ever you must... I wouldn't care less .. And regarding your opinions about other people in this Forum I am not interested in hearing them either... keep them to yourself if you please.

How incredibly convinient!

So let me get this straight in what you want me to believe.....

You expect me to believe that "someone" who was (apparently!) only threatening me...with sharing my info publically if I kept talking about my experiences....PM'd *you* my details but neglected to PM me yours!

Wow, yeah, I really believe that one! Wow! How gracious of them to PM you your details *and* mine!

But only PM'd me my details....and not yours...and then mentions your name out of the blue!!
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Wow Pam! You know, you have such a great track record for telling the truth!
Listen, I ain't buying it.
*YOU* of all people *get my details* and then do *nothing about it*.
LMAO!!!
Right.....!
Well it's a good thing you deleted that info, now if *someone* shared it around in *Private* I know it won't be *you* doing it right? Cause your such a straight shooter with the truth.
Uh oh, I can tell this is one of those "moments" where you pick up and run for the exit when you get trapped in yet another lie. Remember what thats like? Usually you get caught in an *obvious one* and then you "leave" and come back under another name and berate me pretending your not who you are. But always forget to modify your posting style and get hell bent on harrasing me like you did on OMF.
I told you that night on Blossoms Blog....*LET IT GO*....move on with your life. But month after month the only thing that seems to swirl around in that head of yours is *revenge*. When I came back and exposed you....you knew I knew definitively about your new sharade.
You started wigging out by hugging that new identity. I promised you publicly that nothing would come of it and I kept that promise. I don't care what you do with your life You aren't my wife and I don't care much for your friendship. When it became obvious how important your new identity was I ...(say it with me)....let it go.
I told you we should ignore each other and let it be. You denied it publicly....I don't care! You knew I still had some info you couldn't erase.

What happens a month later? Tada! Someone comes knocking telling me they have my home address and name. They got at least part of the info wrong. ;)

But now you are pretending not to be involved! Sure! I believe you! [NOT!]

You got the info in your inbox and then you "deleted it" like a good citizen. RIGHT.....!
Now your claiming to say the truth? Really? Pam = no truth. Shes such a horrible liar that she would *flunk* a class in lying. You practice it alot but never got a degree in it apparently!
Whether you sign off "Love and Light" or "Hope for the best" or xoxxoxoxoxoxoxo. You just don't have it in your.soul to be of the light if you really tried.
 
Would you like me to bring up the events of Oct 14th and the hateful thing you said back then? Wouldn't people be surprised how you two type exactly the same! You even call me dear and seetie...
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But here is the interesting thing....what would "they" think of your *honesty*....if I proved my point?

Would there be a flushing sound next to your credibility?

So say it again "Vigusa". "I am not Pam". The bigger the lie....the harder the fall when the truth comes to light.

Don't worry, thanks to "whiterosea" one of your sock puppet accounts, I don't know where you live. But you do know where I lived.

So lets see whats coming next. You like to play the identity game, then I will do the same. How does it feel to get a taste of your own medicine? Bitter isn't it?
What in the world will they think when they learn the truth about your identity and long track record of dishonest behavior? Will they think you are an honest angel as your icon depicts? Gee...

P.S. For everyone who thinks I am being too rough on her, imagine someone threatening you by telling people where you lived before. Will *you* be half as tolerant as I am with a cyberstalker?
Err...wait...how should I end this post....oh yeah...pam style!
"Blessings and Light" (not)

Fore darling love your stuff, sooooo confused right now lol. If anyone is harrassing fore, stop it!!!! All fore does is give opinions and info. Please no trolling people.

Love ya

Cherry

Ok time I jumped in here, I have to say that I too am questioning why you didnt pm me Vig and let me know you recieved this message with fore's details in it, even if not to say "hey lissa, this person is threatening fore and bringing me into it by sending this stuff to me and since we have had a less than perfect relationship in the forum, I thought I should forward this copy onto you so you know what is going on"   And if you were threatened too vigusa, I wonder even further as to why you didnt alert me to the fact that a member here is making threats to you too.
So let me state this clearly so there is no mistake. Who ever this whiterosea is, if you (or any member for that matter) make any more threats, divulge any personal or private information about any member here I will contact the authorities in my area and hand over your ip addy to them and let them sort you out.  Clear? Good

To all Forum Moderators, please keep your eye out on the message boards and if you see any posts that have Fore's or any other members personal details in them, Please DELETE the message immediately. You will not have to delete the whole message thread, just go to the individual message and delete it from its own Admin Actions drop down box.

Fore,  I really like your style of writing and I agree with you that we do not question with enough logic, the messages we are given by these "angelic or et entities".. point of example, why did 3000 angels save the 155 people in the plane in the hudson, yet fail to save the 200 + that died and all the people who lost their homes in the firestorm this past weekend here in victoria?  Why are there not 3000 angels saving people all over the planet, especially the innocent children?  If they were really angels saving that plane, then I would say the angels have an ecconmic agenda if they deem it only prudent to intervene and save bankers/ecconomists or whatever they were instead of small innocent children who have done nothing to anyone.  And if they have an ecconmic agenda, then I would doubt highly that they are angels.   I agree with you  fore that just because you point out your observations, opinions, the information your given and ask pertinent questions, you shouldnt be judged or ridiculed for that.  Unless any one has forgotten, this is what this forum is for, to express different opinions, positive and negative, with all members and allow them to decide for themselves, as long as it is done with respect, which, I believe you have (with a couple of exceptions lol) tried very hard to do and to be very diligent in the words you use.  So in saying that I have to say that toward the end of your last post you were getting a bit over the line, I know you are upset with the threats and you have every right to be so, but please try to keep it from spilling over into outright attack.

Vigusa, I would ask the same of you, there are many members here who do not see Fore's messages as negative, but informative, thought provoking, self evaluating and questioning.  You can by all means post that you find them negative but be very careful not to cross the same line, some of your posts in this thread are pushing that line the same as Fore's.

Ok ... now everyone... GROUP HUG!! ... right.. we all good now?  Everyones vented, everyones been warned, Lefora management have been informed of the threat... lets resume the topic and enjoy some good old fashioned debating :)

(quote Lissa) So let me state this clearly so there is no mistake. Who ever this whiterosea is, if you (or any member for that matter) make any more threats, divulge any personal or private information about any member here I will contact the authorities in my area and hand over your ip addy to them and let them sort you out.  Clear? Good (end quote)
 
So Lisa, are you acussing me of making those threats to Fore?
 
He has acussed me here of impersonating several people, of lieing, of threatening him and being dishonest... and you believe it all?
 
And moreover he has been the one who has really threatened me here in his previous post and I am the one accused of threatening him?
 
You got to be kidding me :(