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Hi everyone, I would like to post something that I have just penned using the Declaration of Human Sovereignty from the Society for Human Sovereignty as a basis.  I think that their document is a vital one upon our entrance into the cosmic neighbourhood, but I also felt that perhaps what was needed was a first contact declaration, its all very well to have a Declaration like this in place, but demanding things of races who come to visit without first establishing a common dialogue & welcome, may seem a bit domineering to some. I know it does to me. So I have put together this following Declaration and would like your input on it and on asking Blossom to present it to the FOL...

Love & Light... Lissa

Declaration of Intention Regarding First Contact with Extraterrestrial Races

This Declaration represents the general populace of Human Beings upon Earth and does not represent any one Country, its Government or Individual Organisations and their policies.

We, the people of Earth, extend greetings and blessings to all races in the Greater Cosmic community.

We, The people of Earth, declare the planet Earth as humanity's Planet of Genesis, our Homeworld and our sacred inheritance.

We, the people of Earth, regard the need for freedom to be universal and believe that all individuals in all worlds in the universe are created equal and are endowed by the Creator with sacred and inalienable fundamental rights. We require that all visitors to our Homeworld acknowledge and agree to our fundamental rights as presented in this document, if they wish to establish contact, continued access to our airspace and future relationships of trade & commerce. We hereby do now invoke these fundamental rights for ourselves and for our Homeworld, along with certain rights that naturally derive from them, including:

The Right of Sovereignty - The People of Earth shall be self-governed and independent, neither subject to nor dependent upon any other authority. No extraterrestrial race or collective shall contravene or abrogate the human Sovereignty of this planet.

The right to live as a free race on our Planet of Genesis

The right to life without oppression or supression

The right of self-determination, self-sufficiency and creative expression

The right to pursue in life a higher purpose and a higher calling that the Creator has provide to all

The right of planetary sancitity. As our Planet of Genesis, the Earth shall be free from extraterrestrial intervention, intrusion, interference or exploitation, both in the mental environment and the physical environment. No extraterrestrial race shall make close approach, assume close orbit, make any landing or engage in trade, after the intitial conact has been made, except openly and with the expressed consent of the People of Earth achieved through a democratic means.

The right of Sancitity of biological and genetic material. No extraterrestrial race, collective or power shall take, possess, or manipulate human biological or genetic material for any purpose whatsoever

The right of occupation. As the native people of the one known inhabited planet of this Solar System, we claim this Solar System as our sphere of influence. No extraterrestrial bases may be established on bodies or stations orbiting the Earth, nor on other planets or bodies of this Solar System, except with the expressed consent of the People of Eath, acheived through a democractic means.

The right of peaceful navigation and exploration. We claim the right to travel and explore within our Solar System without interference or restraint from extraterrestrial races, collectives or powers and maintain the right to deny access to this Solar System by any extraterrestrial races, collectives or powers.

We, the People of Earth, hereby revoke and declare, that all and any previous agreements or contracts, alligences or alliances, with any Extraterrestrial races or Collecitves, made without our knowledge and in secret by any of the Governments or Individual Organizations that operate upon Earth are, from this point of contact, suspended.

If your Race or Collective has had in the past any dealings, agreements, contracts or alliances with any Government or Organisation upon this planet, these will be re-negotiated once an international democratic body representing the general populace of Earth can be established. Once Diplomatic Relationships have been established, we may then, in full disclosure and public democratic discussion, establish new alliances and common agreements, that are agreed upon by all people of Earth.

We, the People of Earth, consider it our rightful responsibility to assert and defend these fundamental rights, and to give and recieve aid consistent with these rights. In the case of any dispute with extraterrestrial races, the burden of proof of innocence will fall on those who are not native to Earth.

Let it be understood that in making this Declaration of Intention Regarding First Contact, we the People of Earth, affirm our future and destiny as a free race within a Greater Cosmic Community of Intelligent Life. We recognize that we are a part of this Greater Community and that we are destined, over time, to encounter many different races from beyond our world. To them and to all others, we hereby declare that our intention is one of growht, exploration and the seeking of wisdom, not conquest or domination in space.

We declare that the rights and priviledges that we affirm here for ourselves, we also affirm for all races of beings whom we might encounter. In making this Declaration of Intention Regarding First Contact, we proclaim our rights, responsibilities and privileges as a free race in order that we may pursue greater unity, peace and cooperation within the human family without unwanted or unwarranted intrusion and interference by any outside nation or force from the Greater Cosmic Community.

We make this declaration as an expression of our Divine right and honorable intentions for the human family and for all races in the Universe who seek to be free.

As a Visitor to our World, we require that you, in good faith, acknowledge and agree to all that has been stated in this Declaration of Intention and that you agree that your Intention of visiting our world is not one of conquest or domination, that you are not here to interfere, intrude upon or deny our Rights as stated above, and that you come in peace to establish freindship and/or future commerce.

Welcome from the People of Earth

 

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Hmmmm, Lissa,
Very well written. I like it, but truthfully, I need a few days to process it and see how I FEEL about it. Are we leaving something out? Do we insult their intelligence with this? I am just asking myself questions before I cast a vote for something.
Thaks
John

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Good points jloveoy. It seems to me that in the end it would be a worthless piece of paper...like a marriage certificate. They can say "I DO", but that doesn't mean "They Will".

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I dont think its a question of insulting their intelligence John ... any race of beings that is spiritually advanced welcomes questioning & discernment.  If they are who they say they are then they have advanced past ego reactions of insult and offense.

Just about every spiritual channell or teacher or doctrine, other than the organised religions, ask you to question, clarify and discern.. so I do not see a race of enlightened beings being offended by this. Our angels and other spiritually advanced beings that contact us have not been insulted or offended in the past when asked whether they come in light & love, they continually warn us to make sure of who we are having mental contact with. 

Once again the line between spiritual advancement and joining the galactic community seems to be blurred here. Yes, from what we know of the FOL they come in love & light to give us hope, to help us unite as a world and a people, but lets just look at it from an earthly point of view for one moment.  A new spiritual master from some obscure corner of the world suddenly appears and begins a dialogue of love & light, they send a message to you and say that they would like to come and stay with you at your home for a while, they promise to unite the people of the world, promise to usher in a new understanding, they are calm, gentle, loving, you feel better when you read their words and you will be required to have faith, trust that what they are offering is for your betterment and let them come and do what they have to do without question. You have never met this person, you have only heard their discourse and the testiment of a few other people who have had contact with them.  Would you allow it? Would you welcome this stranger into your home with your children, your family, your loved ones, would you allow this person free reign in your house?  I do not think you would without much debate and questioning and background checking. Why then is it any different when a different race from off world says basically the same thing? We should be open to it, but we should be sensible as well.

I do not doubt the sincerety of Blossom, nor do I doubt that she is one hundred percent legitimate and is the most humble and beautiful soul I have had the pleasure of being in the same room as in my eintire life, however, common sense tells me that we are babies in the universe, we are not mentally strong at all.. heck, 90% of us cant even meditate for 15mins every day.... do you call that mentally strong?  It is far from it. How many here just in this forum meditate daily, every day, without fail or excuse, and manage to meditate at the deep theta level which is physically the level we need to enter to reach deep spiritual connection? I know I have not achieved this daily practice yet and Ive been at it for many many years.

We humans lack the self discipline neccessary to lift ourselves up into spiritual adolecence. Our great desire to have someone come and help us do it is a beacon to any and all in the nearby galaxies who may not have our best interests at heart.

Is there a possibility that Blossom is being deceived? Albeit a small possibility, but a possibility none the less?  of course there is, only our ego's would say there isnt. Only our ego's would say 'hey, we might be babies in the realm of the mind but there is no way we could possibly be enticed or tricked by some other race that is vastly more superior in the ways of mental persuasion'...  thats human ego & arrogance, which shows how very young we are as a race.

If the FOL are the spiritually advanced race that they say they are, and believe me I am hoping and praying that they are just as much as anyone else, then they would not be insulted by our Declaration, that is an ego based reaction and as spiritually advanced souls who are coming here to enlighten us, that wouldnt be their reaction.  They would smile, nod and understand that we are willing and open to growth and smart enough to know that in the universe there are those that would seek to harm us, or know that we are not yet strong enough in the realm of the mind to fully discern who is who and understand our acknowledgement of our own failings and weaknesses.  If they had an ego based reaction and were insulted, that would give us a definate clue that they or any of the other races who are making contact, are not as spiritually advanced as they say they are.

Please do not misunderstand my position, I want the FOL to come, I want it to be everything we all hope it is, but I also do not want to wake up one morning a few years from now to find my planet is no longer my own. I am not naieve enough to believe that being technologically advanced means your spiritually advanced.  They are NOT the same thing.

How many spiritual con artists are there on this planet? How many fake readers, fake channellers, fake spiritual guru's taking peoples money and promising them heaven on earth?  You all know there are thousands.. and no I do not believe Blossom is a fake, as I said I believe she is one hundred percent legit, but why does every one think that just because they come from off world they are automatically spiritually advanced? This is a question no one has been able to answer for me to date and if anyone can shed some light on it I would be grateful. 

I have met some absolutely beautiful gentle souls in my life.. their energy is so loving and light, you feel better just when they walk in the room,  yet they are no more or no less as spiritually advanced as I am. 

I believe this is one of the greatest opportunities this planet and we as human beings have ever had, the growth and expanding of our minds that is occuring at the moment is unmatched in human history, we are an amazing race of beings and blessed and privelleged to be upon the earth at this time.  I just am not ready to hand over the keys without a few checks and balances in place.

It is not my intention to offend anyone, this is just my verbalisation of the thoughts & feelings that I have, I respect everyones right to think and believe as they do, but welcome the opportunity to discuss it and learn and grow.

Love & Light.... Lissa

 

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 I just found this on Blossoms blog and thought it may go with this discussion.. bold italics is my highlighting.
 Raam said...

Each sentence of the following uplifting address of the Galactic Federation is like precious gem!

Take it into you heart friends.

OPENING ADDRESS TO EARTH
BY THE GALACTIC FEDERATION
ON THEIR FIRST CONTACT
Preliminary Draft

http://thenewearth.org/address.html

On behalf of the Galactic Federation and the Spiritual Hierarchy, we greet you. We would like to assure you that we are of the Light, and that we come to you in the service of your Creator to assist and advise you so that you may better understand and react to the changes which will soon be upon you and your planet.

With your limited vision, and your relationship with self-centeredness and conflict, you may be tempted to suspect that we have come to harm or to conquer you. There are indeed forces in your universe who might have such intentions. But their powers have been largely neutralized at this time. I have already assured you and gladly assure you once again that we are of the Light, and that we are here for your benefit.

The time has now come for a general movement upwards, a sorting of those who are ready to move up, and those who are not. Your planet is to be cleansed physically as well as on the spiritual level, for she has suffered much harm in acting as your host. It is important that you have some idea of what lies immediately ahead and why it is to take place, so that you may prepare yourselves. This is our first task.

You have collectively made great advances in science and technology, but in so doing, you have often neglected another important source of information, namely your intuition. In your obsession with things physical, things which can be seen, felt, measured and tested, you have gained the impression that if you cannot see or feel it, it cannot therefore exist. Your eyes are closed to any possibilities outside your own area of recognition. But I must tell you, that there is more unseen than is seen, there is more uncomprehended than comprehended, there is more to your world and your universe than you could presently imagine.

The density of matter is important. Physical objects have different densities, people's physical frames have different densities, so also do worlds. We are of a lighter, finer density that you, as also are the manifestations which you call spirits or ghosts. Place some pebbles in a sieve, then pour water over them and see how the finer density of water allows it to pass around the denser pebbles. That is why ghosts can pass through walls. That is how our spacecraft can move about invisibly to your eyes, though we are able to make ourselves visible to your senses at will. That is why there is so much going on around you that is invisible to your eyes.

Planet Earth at present exists on the densest possible level as a reflection of the environment in which you live and conduct yourselves and the lessons you have chosen to learn. Each planet or universe or civilization has its constitution, similar in spirit and intent to the constitutions of your more evolved governments. The concept of constitution is to lay down the outer, absolute boundaries of approved behavior beyond which neither individuals nor governments may pass. Planet Earth has been given the gift of Free Will, as have many others. But unlike others, your Free Will has been given without boundaries. Thus you have been able to go to extremes of violence and self gratification at the expense of others, extremes which in other civilizations would not be permitted. In this way you yourselves, and all of us who observe you and experience your world by co-relation, can learn of the effects which such actions can set in motion.

But this situation will shortly come to an end. For now is a time of sorting and of moving upwards. It is a time of revision, of assessment, of taking new paths. It includes your entire planet, and indeed a much wider circle of worlds beyond your own. Your planet is to be cleansed, and its people will move to new worlds according to their evolution and aspirations, in order to learn new lessons in new environments. This will give each individual the opportunity to review his or her life and attitudes, and to consider the kind of future to which he or she aspires.

Having given you just a brief idea of what is to happen very shortly around you, I must now tell you of the task we have been given by Earth's Spiritual Guides and Hierarchy, and how we propose to set about fulfilling our responsibilities.

It is our intent to use what in your language might be referred to as the "carrot and the stick".

The "stick" is not, as you might at first think, a weapon to be raised in aggression or anger or envy. This is not our way. Indeed the "constitution" of our lives and civilization does not permit any of these things. The "stick" we will use is a rod of protection, and it is strict, tolerating no exceptions. Already you will find that your weapons of war are losing their effectiveness; over time these physical weapons will disintegrate into dust, their aura of aggression and anger will be neutralized along with their physical form. You will also find that anything used as a weapon of aggression, even a stick or a fist raised in anger, will be stayed by an unseen hand. Ultimately, you will find that when any words are to be spoken in anger or aggression, the voice of the speaker will falter as if gently choking, so that such words may not be expressed. Finally, as the din of war is gradually stilled and the spirit of peace descends upon your planet, we hope to reinforce it with an all-enveloping blanket of love and goodwill. You must understand that although you may think that victory is an achievement providing its rewards, you should know that the continuance of war and competitive aggression which is a constant feature of your planet has taken its toll upon your emotions and your senses, creating a continuing tension. As this burden is progressively lifted you will find yourselves lightening, becoming more joyful, more able to see the beauty around you and the light in the souls of others.

Perhaps you, with your tradition of total Free Will, may feel that this is an unwarranted intrusion into your liberty. Although you may well agree in principle that the neutralization of all anger and aggression together with all weapons of war would be a wonderful thing, you may not feel altogether comfortable with its imposition by an alien and foreign force. Yet I must tell you that such rules are not unusual; indeed your planet is almost unique in permitting such activities, which are not within the constitutional bounds of other civilizations. Many of you may also feel that while an end to violence is a good thing in principle, it is necessary first of all to repay debts, to claim the "eye for the eye". But I must tell you that such vendettas, such acts of violence followed by counter-violence in the name of honor, these acts have been going on for centuries in your collective lives. Somewhere, at some time, the perpetuation of violence must stop. This is now the place and the time.

I must also explain that if we are to help you, as we have been instructed to do, we must first ask you to be still. We cannot help and advise those who are too busy killing one another to listen to our words. If you could see your planet from outer space as we do all the time, you would see a murky aura of accumulated hate and aggression, and your ears would be deafened by the constant clamor and din of war, the shooting and the bombs, the cries of the wounded and the dying, and the destruction of so much of the physical assets of your civilization which you have previously built with expenditure of great effort and planetary resources. If only the effort you have put into destruction and rebuilding could have been directed into preserving and enhancing, of building upon building, imagine how rich your civilization would now appear! But that is your destiny and it is not for us to question it, only to point out that if you are to listen, to be informed, to improve your conduct and make a right decision when needed to do so, then you must first be stilled.

Our "stick" will be the rod of protection, ensuring that acts of aggression are halted so that the clash of war may be stilled and the spirit of aggression, of violence and revenge may be quietened.

The "carrot" of persuasion will take the form of suggestions as to how you may conduct your lives more peaceably, more spiritually, with the "reward" that in so doing you may be more ready to move to a higher level of being.

It is our hope that as you pause for a moment in your aggression and counter-aggression, when your ears are no longer filled with the din of war and your senses not fully preoccupied with getting the better of others before they get the better of you, in that stillness and space of neutrality you may be persuaded to begin afresh, and to build for yourselves a society where relationships are based on mutual respect, non-aggression and cooperation, on construction rather than destruction.

A daunting, perhaps even impossible task? No. Indeed it is much easier done than imagined.

In other societies more developed than your own, there is one guiding principle of conduct between people. It is a simple rule: first, do no harm.

You must start early with your very youngest children, as we also do, teaching them what is to us the most important rule of life: respect others as you would have them respect you. Think no unkind thoughts, say no unkind words, for one only puts others down in order to make oneself feel greater. Learn to value yourself for what you are; build upon your incarnated foundation, develop yourself and your natural gifts, remembering only that you should enrich your own life without impoverishing that of others, emotionally, spiritually or physically.

Your governments too must reform themselves rapidly, for despite the belief which many hold that they live in a democracy, in truth few people trust their governments to act competently, honestly and efficiently. The purpose of government, in the words of your Thomas Jefferson, is to prevent men from injuring one another. If only you had but one government which did just that, which ensured peace and true social justice among its people, acting productively without undue waste, with honesty and transparency, with the interests of the people – its customers – at heart, you would never believe the beneficial, almost magical effect it would have. With that one principle, there would be physical plenty for all to live challenging and rewarding lives in a pleasant environment on a respected planet.

As you shed your aggressive competitiveness, competing only with ignorance to create knowledge, competing only with poverty to create wealth which all may share, conducting your collective lives according to the principle of mutual respect and cooperation, so all the dark, dank places you have created for yourselves will be changed and brightened, those who have been put down will find new freedom to make their own contribution, and the harm done to your host planet can slowly be undone.

There will be little enough time for this new spirit to take root. But if you can only pause from your aggression long enough to enjoy the stillness of peace, if you can order your collective affairs according to Universal Laws long enough to glimpse the rewards of peace, justice and cooperation, and if experiencing these things each of you can profit from your new environment in order to review your personal attitudes, your approach to yourself and to others, you will then be in a position to embrace a brighter future.

It is our wish to remain with you, and to communicate with you constantly in order to give you a wider view of that which you cannot see, of developments around you and how they will affect you. And in our behavior towards you, we will show you the creative, nurturing power of love, of mutual caring and assistance which we hope that you too will embrace among yourselves. 

 

 

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Someone please explain to me how I become spiritually evolved when I am being made to conform, isnt true spiritual evolvement when one stops doing something of their own free will?  When we have the strength and self discipline to stop this ourselves?.. This channelling sets off alarm bells everywhere in my house and my intuition is going ten to the dozen.

No spiritually advanced soul worth his salt would come and "cleanse" the earth.. they would give us the tools to do so for ourselves would they not?... but to do it for us?... if thats the case then why are not all the spiritual souls being channelled out there right now just start doing it already?.. why do they need to come in big ships and 'cleanse' the planet.  If they are other dimensional beings and dont have a physical body as we do, why do they need a space ship anyway... just appear and start doing the work?...  what is going here?  I think we need some answers, well at least I need some answers...

Love & Light... Lissa

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Hi Lissa,

Thank you for sharing your declaration with us and I must also commend you for the time and effort that
you have spent on putting this information together. I understand the concerns you may have about our
spiritual evolution and our freewill to make choices and decisions for ourselves without any interference
from outside forces, with that said, your point of view is fully noted and you are definitely entitled to
your opinion and beliefs as to what your inner truths are. I’m sure that everything that was written in
the declaration was straight from your heart, out of much love and concern for the betterment of Earth
and its inhabitants.

However, I feel that there may be some contradictions concerning the declaration to the Federation Of
Light. You mention that you wanted humanity to spiritually evolve on our own terms and should have
the freewill and choice to do so without help or interference, but to the best of my understanding, by
writing this declaration on behalf of Earth’s inhabitants without our full knowledge and approval of it,
isn’t that in a sense going against the freewill of the people of Earth?

Many of us have not been given the option to give our opinions or ideas as to what we want or do not
want from the FOL in this declaration, and yet you feel the need to take it upon yourself to write up this
draft that you want to present to the FOL before first contact occurs on behalf of the people of Earth.

I truly respect your point of view of the matter and your concerns for our well being, but I do not feel that
you speak on behalf of all Earth’s inhabitants, especially when we were not initially involved in the
writing process to begin with. While I do agree with some of your points and concerns, I somehow feel
from my heart that other points are being expressed through fear of the unknown, and perhaps more
research is needed to understand the whole spectrum of the world that has been kept from us for so long.

I have done a lot of research and yet there is still so much more research that goes into understanding
not only our true history, our origins, religion, the powers that be, UFO’s, the different kinds of extra
terrestrial beings, abductions, contacts, chanellers, the universe, different dimensions, different cultures,
myths, our world, the Hollow Earth, creation, dreams, reality, etc., and how it all ties in together. We all
have a piece of the puzzle and if we can all come together to put the pieces together, then perhaps we
can better understand the bigger picture.

I feel that before a declaration is even drafted up, much research and understanding of the bigger picture
should be taken into account as well as conducting a survey that allows the people of Earth to decide
what they want and don’t want included in the declaration, that is what I feel FREE will is all about and
isn’t that what you strive towards?

To be honest with you, I don’t even think that many of us would have even opened up our minds,
expanded our way of thinking, understood or even know what consciousness, spirituality, enlightenment,
evolvement, ascension, freewill truly is. Without the initial seeds that have been planted here and
assisted to us by our space brothers and sisters, but please don’t take my word for it, do some research
and seek out the answers, as I’m sure it will unfold for you.

I feel there is a sense of Love and spirituality that resonates from within their poetic messages, of course
it is always wise to use discernment with any information one comes across because there is a lot of
disinformation out there. When reading or hearing certain channelled messages, go deep inside your
heart and your inner self and see if it resonates within you or if it feels sincere. I also find that doing
ample research and investigations on your own can make a huge difference with certain information
given, that way one can clarify the differences between truthful information and what’s not.

Wouldn’t you also agree that if the FOL, with their advance technologies, wanted to take over our planet
that they could have easily and effortlessly done that a long time ago, especially if they’ve been around
for eons of time, much before we even existed here on Earth?

Are we in the position to judge these beings from the FOL before first getting to know who they really are
and without giving them a fair chance to prove their intent? I would hope that people would want to get
to know me first before judging me or my intent without knowing who I am. I feel that love is about
being open, understanding, giving people chances to prove themselves, treating others with respect
and love.

Why would they go through all of the trouble of awakening us to a higher consciousness, guiding us
towards spirituality, enlightening us with information, sending us messages of Love and Light, preparing
us for ascension, gaining our trust, planning for first contact, and then try to control us? How does that
make any sense, why even go through the trouble?

Do you really think that these particular beings from the FOL would have come to assist, guide, help, or
intervene without us first inviting or asking them to do so?

I’m pretty sure that many people on Earth have become more consciously aware and open minded
enough to understand that we are not alone in this vast universe, and that there are those benevolent
beings that are more spiritually evolved who really do have our best interest in mind and do not conduct
deals in secrecy, but rather come directly to the people so that we are not left in the dark with what is
currently going on in our world.

Yes, there are those malevolent beings who have completely violated our rights and have gone against
our freewill and made deals behind our backs with the powers that be, abducting people and doing
experiments on them for the exchange of technology used as weapons for war. Once again don’t take my
word for it, please do your own research into these matters and come to your own conclusions.

I’m more then certain that many people through prayer or meditation have called out to the FOL and
have invited them to assist us because we alone do not have all the answers nor the proper technology to
fully undo our current situation, and where would we start in fixing the mess created. Many truths have
been hidden from us by the powers that be and we must first get answers from them.

Also in the declarations you wanted certain rights to be addressed by the FOL and I definitely agree with
some of the requests you made, but before requesting our rights from the FOL, of whom we don’t even
know just yet, shouldn't we demand those rights from our own government and question their motives
first? We are so concerned and question every motive or intent from the FOL, but most of us don’t even
question or demand answers from the forces that are running our world into the ground and we’ve just
allowed it to happen before our very eyes.

Why are we so tough on the FOL who seem to have nothing but a loving intent and have not done any ill
will towards us as of yet, but we’ve allowed the powers that be which is in our backyards to get away
with so many atrocities, greed, power, genocide, mass murder, destroy Mother Earth, allow people to
starve all over the world, ongoing wars, lies, manipulations and we hardly even question their motives?

Where’s the reasoning in that?

Also the reasons we are not allowed to explore space and we have a quarantine around Earth is due to
the fact that we are not quite spiritually evolved yet and we are still a very destructive race, we not only
have used our weapons against other Extra Terrestrial beings, but have also raped Mother Earth of her
natural resources, turned to war for solutions, committed massive genocides towards millions of our
people, we allow millions of people to starve each and every day, rob the people by using their hard
earned tax dollars for "War", rather than helping our own people. So I think it is quite understood why
we're not allowed to explore space further, I wouldn’t want us to go destroy another planet for our own
personal gain either, it just wouldn’t be right.

I also believe in my heart that more than anything the FOL wants to welcome us into space and be a part
of their Federation, but we must first clean up our act, become more spiritual and less aggressive towards
others and ourselves. I feel the FOL are more then willing to help assist us with this process, for our time
is getting much shorter and shorter before the ascension process is to take place.

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You said in one of your messages:

“Someone please explain to me how I become spiritually evolved when I am being made to conform, isnt
true spiritual evolvement when one stops doing something of their own free will? When we have the
strength and self discipline to stop this ourselves? .. This channelling sets off alarm bells everywhere in
my house and my intuition is going ten to the dozen.

No spiritually advanced soul worth his salt would come and "cleanse" the earth.. they would give us the
tools to do so for ourselves would they not?... but to do it for us?... if thats the case then why are not all
the spiritual souls being channelled out there right now just start doing it already?.. why do they need to
come in big ships and 'cleanse' the planet. If they are other dimensional beings and dont have a physical
body as we do, why do they need a space ship anyway... just appear and start doing the work?... what is
going here? I think we need some answers, well at least I need some answers... ”

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As I read correctly, they did not say they would come and do the work for us, but rather they would help
assist us and we would also have to do our part in cleaning up the mess that we created as a race.

Is it so bad that they want to help assist us with our current world crisis, peacefully bring us together as a
family unit of Earth, open up our minds to love and spirituality, assist us with putting a stop to the
powers that be that are trying to stop our evolvement, prevent us from wars and nuclear destruction?

I know we as the people of Earth have the power to get things rolling in the beginning stages, but there is
much help that is needed to undo the mess that we have created. You said that we should be able figure
things out for ourselves with our own freewill so we can evolve, so I ask you this:

What are YOUR plans for taking down the powers that be, fixing the financial crisis, ending war, ending
poverty, starvation, diseases, saving mother Earth from the pollution and harm that we all have brought
upon her each and every day?

What are YOUR plans towards ending the aggression, hatred, division of classes, racism toward each other?

What are YOUR plans to create a more peaceful and loving environment where we can finally unite as a
family of earth?

So yes, in my opinion and free will choice, I feel that an intervention and assistance is much needed so
that love, peace, spirituality, a new paradigm of harmony and balance can start to shift into place for the
highest and best good for all concerned, because let’s face it, the current state of crisis that we're all in at
this moment is a very serious one and it can lead to a very devastating results. I for one feel that enough
is enough and we need positive changes wouldn’t you say?

One last thing that I wanted to point out is the channelled message that blossom received that
specifically said that the FOL are not here to interfere in our evolvement, but rather they are here for an
intervention, there is a BIG difference here.

Think about it this way if you have a family member who had an aggression problem, who is an abuser, or
who is addicted to drugs, wouldn’t you out of love want to intervene, to help assist them into getting the
proper attention and care that they needed? I doubt that any one of us can turn our backs on our
husband, wife, children, brother, sister, mother, and father, I would hope that out of love one would help
guide them on the right path so they can continue to grow or evolve.

I feel that the FOL are here in a loving, caring, spiritual way, helping to assist and guide us towards the
light because in a sense we are all family, we are all interconnected, we are all energy that comes from
one source and that is the Divine Creator of all that is.

So on that note let’s try to lighten up and see what happens first shall we, then decide accordingly how to
react on the matter, let’s hold off on the declaration for now and depending on what happens on the
14th of Oct., good or bad, we’ll all decide what to do next.

Please let’s be of joy, love and much light, we all are so bogged down by fear and insecurities that we no
longer know how to trust within ourselves. I bless you all and I send unconditional love and abundance of
bright light to all of you, my brother and sisters of Earth.

Before you can make a "declaration" you should be informed on several topics that you may
not be aware of already, and have to do further research to gain a greater understanding
of the state of our current society is in, and the devastation we are heading towards
if something is not done about it very soon.

I would also appreciate it if you did further research on the topics of the N W O, the
ILLUMINATI, and the shadow governments that have been ruling our earth for thousands
of years, without much public knowledge. These are the reasons why change is needed badly.

You should also learn about the financial system and how it was created to keep
the majority of people in debt, and in fear, in order to feed a reptilian race here
on earth. Were you aware that this has been going on already?

I suggest you get started by researching David Icke, and start with this video:

Big Brother, The Big Picture:
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=hSwJZoxr77c

Be sure to watch all 13 parts to get a true understanding on the subject and the big picture
of why a CHANGE is badly needed, or else we're going to continue to live under "their control"

Once you're done going through that, you will want to discover the Esoteric Agenda:
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=rVQqeAhBvek

Be sure to watch all 13 parts as well.

Only after you've done this research, and open up the "declaration" to all of us to vote and revise, that is
our free will, and each individual will be allowed to choose for themselves on what direction they want to
go towards next.

One last thing, shouldn't we the people of earth choose and appoint 1 or more individuals to write &
communicate with the FOL, rather than 1 individual taking it upon themselves to express their point of
views on behalf of planet Earth?

Something to think about, with much love, and light.

John from Canada

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Thank you for the time you took in writing that post and thank you for all the amazing points and information. And especially thankyou for being so respectful, I will try to reply as well and as respectfully to you the best that I can.  Sorry if it seems void of pleasentries.. its midnight and Im a little tired :) I am just responding in short form to keep the post shorter and so my eyes are open long enough.

To the question of free will and writing the declaration.. someone somewhere has to pen the first one, that is why I asked for opinions, so i would know 'did I leave something out?', 'should it say something more', etc.. this is why i put it here for open discussion and input and to tweak it and to add all views.. but somebody has to start that.. I thought here would be a good place.. I am not about to go on national tv with it and ask publicly, at least starting here it can get passed around, talked about, added to and yes get as many points of view as it can.

I am not american so I do not know much about their history but I gather that when the Declaration of Independance was written and adopted they didnt have a national vote on it either, not every single person in america read it and signed off on it. The people in power did that on their behalf, well im not in power but I am a part of this race and I would like to start somewhere, no government body has put out anything like this.. so do we wait?  I just thought it would be a good opportunity to begin to get our future in order.. thats all.. I know if someone else was thinking along these lines I would like to be asked my opinion.. I could of just emailed it to Blossom directly and asked her.. but I didnt.. I think input, conversation, diliberation etc is vital if it is to be a true representation of what our planet wants and expects of visitors in the future.

As for wanting some answers and my red flags going off.. that second message was from the Galactic Federation of Light.. not Blossoms Federation of Light... I want to know who all these factions are, are they one in the same? are they aligned?  Are they against each other, if they are the same then why are they the FOL to Blossom and the GFOL to others.. their messages are subtly different.. hence the cleansing phrasing in the GFOL message and the lack of that kind of suggestion in Blossoms FOL messages.. I believe I we should question these differences when we see them and ask why, who and what for?  Any growing, enquiring mind will note them and raise a brow.. 'something is up here, these are not all coming from the same group'.. and if there are more than one group vying for our attention.. why?  If they are on a spiritual enlightening mission then wouldnt they join? make sure the message was the same?  If their agenda was the same, the message would be the same, and from all the messages Ive read there are vast differences.. I think it even more important to question when people are confusing the FOL and the GFOL as being one and the same..

I do know about the money issue, I also know about the 911 issue, the christianity issue and the many many other issues that every facet of our lives is contorted by .. I also know that until such time as people want to start looking at the mud the rain caused and not just the rainbow, we wont get very far in fixing it all ourselves.. You see I have always said we need an event like the 14th to wake us up and shake us out of our own illusions.. but I also wouldnt just open my door to anyone who knocked and said let me in.. I am not naieve enough to believe that we are strong enough indivduals on this planet in the realm of the mental envrionment to think we could not be duped by beings far more advanced than us in that area.. and as for them coming in and taking over agressively.. from the information I have read, they do not want all out invasion, they want the planet intact, it is always much easier to win by persuasion than by force.. on both sides.. is it not?

The question of intervening vs interference is a legitimate one.. your right, we would want to help a family member with an addiction etc, we would suggest, show them the material, offer to take them, BUT in the end they have to do it for themselves.. they have to go, they have to heal, they have to get better.. we can only show them the door, they have to walk through it.. so that is my question.. why are they not just showing us the door? Why are some of these different channellings saying they are coming to cleanse the earth as the GFOL did in the above message.. this is not what a true spiritual teacher does.. they show us how to do it for ourselves.. If they just put us in a state of being healed and come here and fix every thing up, they have created co-dependance.. for every time we get ourselves in a mess we will want them to fix it.. maybe thats the agenda.. maybe that is what they want.. who knows... I certainly dont.. that is why I want to question it.. that seems logical to me.

I do not wish to spread fear, fear is unempowering, but knowledge is empowering, the more we have, the better able to discern the truth we become, that is all I wish for .. to become wiser..

thankyou again for such a well articulated and amazing post.. I wish my reply could do it justice.. i believe a cup of coffee and chat with you would be an experience one wouldnt forget in a long long time lol...

Love & Light ... Lissa

 

 

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Lissa,

I am intrigued by your Declaration of Intention Regarding First Contact with Extraterrestrial Races. I'm familar with the Declaration of Human Sovereignty

http://www.humansovereignty.org/

I see you've copied parts of it, left out parts and altered other sections. Good for you! I like it. It shows me we're starting to think together more as a planet ('planetism') rather than individual nations (nationalism). Too bad we don't have a unified world forum where we all act like fellow humans and have a vote, or the equivalent. The United Nations just doesn't cut it for me because I don't get to participate. So, maybe you should start one? Like the United Nations of Garden Variety Humans ..?

Anyway, I have some thoughts on your declaration. First question; by what authority do we, as humans, make these claims and demands? Simply making claims and demands in isolation won't garner respect from advanced forms of life. And I include humans in that category. As a sentient creature I ask "What's the basis for your claims?". I suspect aliens do that too. Let me give you an example. You said:

"The right of occupation. As the native people of the one known inhabited planet of this Solar System, we claim this Solar System as our sphere of influence. ... We claim the right to travel and explore within our Solar System ... etc."

We do not know yet if earth is the only inhabited planet in this solar system. Even if it is, we don't know if we're the dominant species. Even if we are, does that give us the right to "claim" our solar system to use as we please? We've already made a mess of this planet, now we're saying we want to extend that to the remainder of the solar system? Uhg.

What makes you think we're native to this planet? What if we're the aliens, as Carl Sagen once suggested, that we are the result of aliens introducing our species to this planet long ago? Even if we are native to earth, what it is about us that is "native"? Our physical bodies? Spiritual bodies? Our souls ..? Is it our physical nature only that makes this Declaration? Or does our spirit say to the remainder of the spirit world, and all it includes, God and everyone, that humans have a list of demands?

On what basis do these demands have merit? Making them is easy, the whole things sounds great to me: We declare ourselves masters of this solar system and that's all there is to it. Cross our boundaries and, boom, we'll defend ourselves. What if dolphins made such a declaration and delivered it (somehow) to our United Nations security council. Imagine that as far as they were concerned, they are the highest form of life on earth and in the solar system. After all, they haven't trashed the planet, they're peaceful, loving, playful and they don't have wars, the scope of their domain (oceans) is almost three times the size of the scope of human domain (land), that list could go on. Anyway, what would do you think the reaction would be at the U.N.?

I guess I'm just a little soft on the idea that we are going to demand this and claim that while few, if any, on this planet know who we really are.

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thats a really good point, as you said, I used the Human Sovereignty document as a basis, I am not that smart to come up with it myself lol...

As for the parts regarding claiming the planet and the solar system, I am unsure how else to proceed with this, if we do not make a stand in some way that this is our planet and we will not take occupation or rulership from outside collectives then the alternative is to allow another race that we know nothing about to come and take over the rulership of our planet.. i am not sure that I would want this, perhaps the wording could be changed to something such as, As the current sentient inhabitants of this planet etc,... and as for the solar system perhaps we could put that we lay claim to it until such time that we learn of other inhabitied planets at which time we would welcome some kind of joint agreement about travelling to and from and within, kinda like our current flight path and air space rules here on earth?  I am up for suggestions on this

I am open to suggestions... as i said, I just used the other document as a basis, but i felt that it was more of a document you use after intial contact and a planetary body had been set up.. i thought we needed a more pre physical contact type of one.. if that makes sense... lol

love & light

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*Daniel Emming's Two Word Declaration (on behalf of humans) Directed to All Non-Humans*

First, before I make this momentus declaration, please consider the basis for such a statement:

*Our Identity*: We're human. That's about all we know at the moment, we're pretty certain about our limited physical nature, sort of wobbly on the spiritual component, and think we probably have a soul. Each human feels she or he has their own identity, but we find common ground in this human thing.

*Our Intentions*: Sex, drugs and rock 'n roll. OK, well not all of us take drugs. And, yes, I'll admit, some like classical music, but the sex thing is a big hit. We intend to do all kinds of stuff, in fact each human probably has their own unique intentions, and we tend to think our own personal intentions are more worthy and honorable that those of other humans. So it's hard to speak of the intention of the human kind, but the opening sentence kind of sums it up. Oh yeah, almost forgot to mention, if you don't happen to agree with our intentions - We'll fire a laser-guided, GPS enabled missle at you.

*Who We Serve*: Ourselves mainly. Some say they serve Jesus (Sananda), others serve Allah, the Great Spirit, their national government, military command, or some trendy philosophy. We tend to change our mind a whole bunch about who we serve, but that doesn't matter much: We're ready and willing to kill each other about differences of opinion on this matter. Oh, by the way, most folks here are absolutley appalled at the idea we might be serving under you someday. Hope that doesn't matter too much. Clearly, we don't serve this planet.

And now, the Two Word Declaration:

*PLEASE HELP*

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PlEASE HELP that was a good one humor is a good thing

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I hear what you're saying, Lissa... and I feel a bit taken back and hurt that they reconize those aggressive and warring people only. It's true that I can't imagine the way we'd look... or perhaps I can, I can't even watch the news now!... but I know that we are not all like this. Many of us are changing.

I'm concerned that they do not understand human spirit well... the tighter you bind a human, the harder they struggle.

And I see nothing in that message about their intentions with us. I know that there are bad intentions towards us, easily hidden and wrapped up with pretty promices, so it concerns me when we're told that there will be changes made with or without our consent without giving us an idea of what to expect and some way of proving their good intent.

Perhaps we do need help. Perhaps all we need is a good (and I don't mean literally) kick up the bum to remind us that it;s OUR responsiblity. Earth is filled with humans and it's true, global attitudes take a bit to get rolling but once they do... we really start to roll. But if we get help, we need to have equal say in it...

As for your writing, it was good. Perhaps it should be altered in reguards to the solar system though, as we really don't know if we were the first. Maybe 'As we believe to be the first, we ask that it be concidered that the Solar Systam ...'blahblah... you know?

Complicated times. Really complicated times. Hard to do it alone, hard to do it by force, even with good intent, it is murky messy times.

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LMAO... ok I am definately adding *Daniel Emming's Two Word Declaration (on behalf of humans) Directed to All Non-Humans* as an appendix LOL..that was too funny... and oh too true lol

I like the way you worded that last part cory,

The right of Administration and peaceful navigation and exploration:  

As we believe we are the descendants of the first native people of the one known inhabited planet of this Solar System, that being Earth (or Urantia as it is known elsewhere), we consider the Earth and its immediate surrounding airspace & satelites to be our sphere of influence & maintain our right to be the administrators of our planet. No extraterrestrial ships may enter our immediate airspace after intial first contact or establish bases or ports on bodies or stations currently & in the future, orbiting the Earth, except with the expressed consent of the People of Eath, acheived through a democractic means. 

We maintain the right to travel and explore within our Solar System without interference or restraint from extraterrestrial races, collectives or powers that do not reside on any planet in this solar system. At such time that it is made aware to us that we are not the only inhabited planet in our solar system we would ask for our sphere of influence to be respected as we would then also respect any other inhabited planet's autonomus control of the airspace surrounding their planet and satelites to the same degree with which we ask for our own.

How does that sound?  I dont know if i worded it right, but i think thats better isnt it?

Love & Light

 

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Sounds good to me. ^_^

Look, they might read it and laugh at it, but it's worth stating our position in any case. Someone is bound to eventually hear it and respect the intention behind the words...

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Thats my point exactly cory, it may just be a piece of paper, but who knows.. if down the track something unwanted was to occur here and say there is some sort of universal body that governs this sort of thing, at least we have the proof to say "hey we tried to say we didnt want them to take over, we declared our independance and our rights" that will at least stand us in good stead in the future instead of us having to say "oh well um doh.. we didnt know they were coming to take over, and we didnt even think of it..."  that just says in loud techno-coloured letters... we're NOT ready to govern our own planet if we didnt even think of it lol

Love and light

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Skimming through this, I have to agree with it as well,  We need this kind of diplomacy I might not be an actual contact? But I may have in the past? Back in 1994 A recieved a if not a series of messages in languages I can't decipher? Which is what has brought me to this site, I never knew of this orginization until recent? My Mother is a channeler who was a student of the late June Burke from the west coast of the U.S.! She has her own channel too but whether true or not is questionable? My mother in the last ten or so years has suffered from many strokes, dealing with her failing health, and also recently the past four years, by doctors perspective was diagnosed with demensia. Her words in 2005 on my wedding day were I want you to know...that they're here! Obviously to whom she reffered to was our contacts? this was on the 2nd of september. To this day I wonder what those words meant that I had recieved long ago, and to know that she mentioned to me that has to be in relation to it? But furthermore I am more acknowledgable of our contacts then I had growing up in 1994 I was merely 22 today I'm 36 hoping to find answers to these questions?

But Understanding the Earth's Dilema and humanitiy on a wholescale has thrown me into the circle, and I want to do my share to help staring in my troubled citly in Michigan! My only regret is not knowing back then, maybe I could have been more active sinse I had more freedom, I just was never online until late 2004

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